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    Agreed lol
    Absolutely....Mariska is a stunning woman....brilliantly talented with such a huge heart and incredible beauty inside and out....I just LOVE everything about her. XOXOXOX!!!

    Here is the website for her Joyful Heart Foundation which she set up to help sexual assault and domestic violence survivors:

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    I found this link this morning while checking out one of Scott's videos on YouTube. I have no idea if it has been posted before so apologies if it has, but Mariska at 2 years old is adorable

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2CKj7AvN6dM

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    As much as I love Mariska Hargitay, I feel that Jayne Marie Mansfield gets short shrift. Granted, she has chosen a private life and good on her.

    It just bugs me when I see photos of Jayne and a young girl on Facebook groups like Tragic Hollywood: Beautiful, Glamorous and Dead and everyone says "That's Mariska!" Actually, most photos you see of Jayne with a young girl are of Jayne Marie, not Mariska. Mariska was 3 1/2 when Jayne died, and relatively speaking there are fewer photos of her with Jayne.

    When Jayne was starring in Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? on Broadway, she and Jayne Marie were pretty much all the other one had. By all accounts, they were very close. There was some distancing and difficulties when Jayne Marie became a teenager; Jayne was having financial difficulties and was embroiled in a relationship with that dirtbag, Sam Brody.

    My little rant being over, here is a fairly rare current (November, 2013) photo of Jayne Marie Mansfield (with Mariska). Jayne Marie also favors her mother in some ways.

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    She lost her wig and maybe had her head shaved. But she did a face first into a truck and was scalped. She had her clothes on, and not many knew she wore wigs. Back then that was seen as tacky. Dolly Parton pushed them into acceptance. But in 67 a wig was a bad word.
    I was a very young kid in 1967, but I do remember that wigs were actually very popular. Lots of the younger moms in the nabe had two or three, plus wiglets. It was kind of a fun thing, not that they needed wigs or wore them all the time. My mom was one of the few who wasn't interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeuveClicquotNJ View Post
    As much as I love Mariska Hargitay, I feel that Jayne Marie Mansfield gets short shrift. Granted, she has chosen a private life and good on her.

    It just bugs me when I see photos of Jayne and a young girl on Facebook groups like Tragic Hollywood: Beautiful, Glamorous and Dead and everyone says "That's Mariska!" Actually, most photos you see of Jayne with a young girl are of Jayne Marie, not Mariska. Mariska was 3 1/2 when Jayne died, and relatively speaking there are fewer photos of her with Jayne.

    When Jayne was starring in Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter? on Broadway, she and Jayne Marie were pretty much all the other one had. By all accounts, they were very close. There was some distancing and difficulties when Jayne Marie became a teenager; Jayne was having financial difficulties and was embroiled in a relationship with that dirtbag, Sam Brody.

    My little rant being over, here is a fairly rare current (November, 2013) photo of Jayne Marie Mansfield (with Mariska). Jayne Marie also favors her mother in some ways.

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    At that event in November 2013, Jayne Marie appeared terribly uncomfortable with Marissa's constant hugging and kissing, to the point where it was clear to me that it was a show put on by Mariska that Jayne was unaware was going to happen.

    Also to note, Jayne Marie not only resembles her mother much more so in features, but in size as well. Jayne Marie took on her mothers small size and tiny waist. Mariska took so much more after her father in the size department (be it Mickey, or more likely, Sardelli).

    The boys are never spoken of (Mickey Jr, Zolton and Tony Cimber) almost as if they never existed. Jayne was still married to Matt Cimber at the time of her death, although living with her divorce lawyer, Sam Brody (who perished in the crash as well).

    The boys, more so than Jayne Marie have really kept out of the spotlight which is probably good for them. Her youngest Tony, is just three years younger than I.

    Also to note, (and this has probably been mentioned), but Jayne Maries paternity has always been in question, it is doubtful that Paul Mansfield (Jaynes first husband) was Jayne Maries father.
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    Lisa:

    I wrote an article about Jayne's childhood home in Phillipsburg, PA; she and her mother and father were living there when her father died after having a heart attack while driving the family around town. I'm not sure of the accuracy of this, but it's the best I can find. I'm still kinda researching it. Anyway, when the article was published on a local Patch news site, I reached out to Miklos & Zoltan on FB and sent them a link to the article. Both responded kindly and thanked me for writing about their mother - made my day.

    If I thought I had a snowball's chance, I'd love to write a serious book about Jayne. Except for Martha Saxon's Jayne Mansfield and the American Fifties, the other books about Jayne are pretty much sensationalist crap. I wish someone like Barbara Leaming - who wrote If This Was Happiness about Rita Hayworth or Suzanne Finstad, who wrote Natasha about Natalie Wood - would tackle it.

    Jayne was an excellent comedienne and a pretty good actress when given the chance. She was also a devoted mother and a hard-working breadwinner for a large family. I think her ascent - and descent - during the 50s and 60s pretty much followed the social and sexual changes of those decades. I think it's a shame that her talent and story has been overshadowed by the circumstances of her death.

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    Photo of Jayne and Bob Hope, circa 1959, from the LA Times' archives:

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    I agree, but it was a photo op for Mariska,and she knew it. In all the reports on it the boys were not even mentioned, or were identified as friends ! I've seen a couple of pics of Tony Cimber, he does resemble Jayne to some extent. I wonder if he has a relationship with his half siblings, my guess would be probably not.

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    Here is some ultra rare footage of Jayne at her final New Year celebration with Sam, Miklos and Mariska (I guess Jayne Marie would have done her own thing being 16, Zoltan was still in recovery from the Lion attack and maybe Tony was considered too small to bring with, or maybe he was spending the holiday with his Dad.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK9lItCfJxA

    Also regarding Tony, his daughter Jianni shared a pic of him recently. Gosh he'll be 50 next year too. So much time really has passed since Jayne left us.

    http://thejaynemansfieldpage.blogspo...imber-his.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisalouver View Post
    At that event in November 2013, Jayne Marie appeared terribly uncomfortable with Marissa's constant hugging and kissing, to the point where it was clear to me that it was a show put on by Mariska that Jayne was unaware was going to happen.

    Also to note, Jayne Marie not only resembles her mother much more so in features, but in size as well. Jayne Marie took on her mothers small size and tiny waist. Mariska took so much more after her father in the size department (be it Mickey, or more likely, Sardelli).

    The boys are never spoken of (Mickey Jr, Zolton and Tony Cimber) almost as if they never existed. Jayne was still married to Matt Cimber at the time of her death, although living with her divorce lawyer, Sam Brody (who perished in the crash as well).

    The boys, more so than Jayne Marie have really kept out of the spotlight which is probably good for them. Her youngest Tony, is just three years younger than I.

    Also to note, (and this has probably been mentioned), but Jayne Maries paternity has always been in question, it is doubtful that Paul Mansfield (Jaynes first husband) was Jayne Maries father.
    Regarding Jayne Maries father it is Paul Mansfield. One they resemble each other and two the story goes Jayne thought she was pregnant and eloped with Paul Mansfield at the end of January 1950. Jayne Marie was born in November 1950. Jayne would have had to have been pregnant at least 11 months if that story was true. Simple maths tells the truth in this case.

    Zoltan has turned up on a couple of Documentaries about his Mum but the other two keep a very low profile.

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    I am amazed at the amount of speculation of the paternity of Jayne Marie and Mariska. Mariska still cries whenever she speaks of Mickey, and I think if she had found out that he wasn't her "real dad" there would be less emotion tied to him. But that's just me. Notice that Sardelli never even brought up Mariska until she hit it big? Yeah, I'm sure there are loads of folks who'd claim to be her bio father then. And Jayne Marie was born well after her parents were married.

    As for Mariska not being a copy of Jayne, take a look at this pic: The only thing different is the tip of her nose, her jaw and lips, which all match Mickey perfectly.

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    Jemintrix, your link doesn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzysmom View Post
    Jemintrix, your link doesn't work
    Try this:

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    I loved looking at Jayne's pink luggage in Scott's office, all scratched up from the accident. He has a very cool collection.

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    Sophia Loren finally comments on her famous "side-eye" photo with Mansfield:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...usaolp00000592

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidmor View Post
    Sophia Loren finally comments on her famous "side-eye" photo with Mansfield:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...usaolp00000592

    Love it, thanks for sharing.

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    I think it speaks volumes about Ms Loren that she won't autograph copies of that photo out of respect for Jayne. Classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeuveClicquotNJ View Post
    I think it speaks volumes about Ms Loren that she won't autograph copies of that photo out of respect for Jayne. Classy.

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    I agree. Class act for sure. I love love love love Jayne and that is one of my favorite pics of her. SL is so beautiful in her own right as well.

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    Mine too. I've always loved that photo. Both ladies are stunning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McMorbid View Post
    Mine too. I've always loved that photo. Both ladies are stunning.
    They really are. They are so beautiful. I wonder if Jayne would have aged as well as Sophia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by findadeathaddict View Post
    I wonder if Jayne would have aged as well as Sophia.
    I have my doubts - she was on a hard circuit those last years; but you never know. She was stunning back in the day though.
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    There are 2 books about Jayne, one by May Mann who was supposedly a close friend of hers. She says in her book that Jayne said to her that Nelson (Sardelli ) has got to meet Mariska. The other book by Martha Sexton also brings up paternity, saying most sources agreed that the baby was Sardelli's. Both books were written in the early 70's long before Mariska was a star. Mickey raised her with the boys, so even if he is not her bio father, it's the only one she has ever known.

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    Mickey Hargiaty picking up the children from hospital after crash, he is holding Marskia, Mickey Jr in wheelchair and Zoltan standing.

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    How sad.

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    Mickey, Jayne and newborn Mariska.


    Jayne's funeral with oldest daughter Jayne Marie, standing with veil on her head and sunglasses.

    Last edited by pkstracy; 01-25-2017 at 12:53 PM.

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    I know we have had this thread going for years, but I wonder what happened to her oldest daughter? I also wonder what kind of relationship she has had with her siblings...
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    Jayne Marie Mansfield in the 70s she posed for playboy, she became the first daughter of a Playmate to be a featured model.[citation needed] To date, only one other daughter of a Playmate has been featured in the magazine. Additionally, she is the only model who was featured as 100 Beautiful Women along with her mother in the magazine's 1988 special issue. She has acted in the film Olly, Olly, Oxen Free (1978) and TV production Blond in Hollywood (2003).
    She accused Sam Brody, two weeks before her mother's death of beating her, she was 16 at the time, but in the photo above of the funeral, one source says that is her and another source says that is Mariska. (this info according to wiki)

    Jayne Marie with Mariska.
    wow Mariska looks like her mother, this is a side by side comparison.
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    50th Deathiversary for Jayne. I recently heard online an interview of Mamie Van Doren, and she had only the best things to say about Jayne and her family, also the background details behind George Harrison's tossing a drink at Mamie, etc. Mamie should go on Gilbert Gottfried's podcast, it'd be a great chance to talk (with very limited commercial interruption) about her own career and how special Jayne was, etc. Another chance for the public to know more about Jayne, and to remember her, other than for her tragic death.

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    June 29th 1967, I was graduating from grade 7 when I heard the news on the radio that morning. I guess it was my first celebrity death and was intrigued by it. My friends and I had seen her in A Guide For The Married Man a couple of months before, and when she came on screen we were like WOW! Bless you Jayne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lisalouver View Post
    OMG! Bobby! His lip gloss is sooooooooo luxurrrrrrrrrrrrrrious!
    I LOVE Jayne, Liked Anna Nicole but couldn't stand Bobby Trendy! "annoying Little Fruit", lol, that's a nice was to describe him!

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    I've been looking at the pic http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/m...ad%20jayne.htm

    maybe one her eyes came out from the cranial anvulsion or maybe one of her famous breasts were badly ripped... wish this pic was in color........ any ideas?
    I have been told by a devoted Jayne fan who has a clear copy of that photo, that Jayne had a piece of air vent from dashboard protruding from one of her eye sockets....

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    TCM recently aired Sophia Loren being interviewed by her son. They briefly mentioned "that" photo and Sophia said that she was "Technically interested" in how those little straps were holding Jayne up and didn't break; also that a lot of her fan mail/signature requests include that photo and that she never signs it, out of respect for Jayne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHARONTATEFAN2014 View Post
    I have been told by a devoted Jayne fan who has a clear copy of that photo, that Jayne had a piece of air vent from dashboard protruding from one of her eye sockets....
    Here is some video/pics I have never seen before. It looks like the left side of her body sustained the most trauma from the impact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Here is some video/pics I have never seen before. It looks like the left side of her body sustained the most damage from the impact.
    Great find!
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    Me and a couple of friends visited L.A. last weekend and stopped in at Scott's museum to see Jayne's car. We also saw her stuffed chihuahua (one of the ones that died in the accident) at the Museum of Death in a case next to Liberace's stuffed cat.

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    If anyone is interested, Mariska is on the cover of the latest People Magazine (April 9). It's mostly about her life and career but there are snippets about Jayne and Mickey.

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    This photo shows Jayne before they covered her. Clicking on it will enlarge the photo keeping your cursor on it will enlarge it more. It was up for auction, no indications on how much it sold for. Poor Jayne. https://rmyauctions.com/bids/bidplace?itemid=23984
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    Thanks!
    Looks like it went for $225.51 - I'd have thought more, but we're Death Hags.
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    Is that all ? Poor Jayne indeed ! Lol.
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    Thanks for sharing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Is that all ? Poor Jayne indeed ! Lol.
    Yeah - they should always try to auction pics like that here first - likely would have commanded far more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimC View Post
    Yeah - they should always try to auction pics like that here first - likely would have commanded far more!
    Exactly. $225.51 for a piece of history is a bargain. If only I'd known ! There must have been many photos taken that morning, not just of Jayne but of Sam Brody and the driver after they had been removed from the car. My mind is clicking, the death hag in me has gone into overdrive. With this Covid 19 I need a distraction ! Lol.
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    A picture I have never seen before showing the driver after he was removed from the car.Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    Exactly. $225.51 for a piece of history is a bargain. If only I'd known ! There must have been many photos taken that morning, not just of Jayne but of Sam Brody and the driver after they had been removed from the car. My mind is clicking, the death hag in me has gone into overdrive. With this Covid 19 I need a distraction ! Lol.
    I'm not sure if it was here or not that I read it but some have said there were close up photos of her taken at the accident site which proved she wasn't decapitated but the top of her head was gone. Someone who claimed to be there said he saw something horrific but he would never divulge what it was as he didn't want it to darken a already horrific time. The hag in me has wondered for years what he meant.

    I've seen these pictures many times over the years and the one that always gets to me is the poor chihuahua lying there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shellc View Post
    I'm not sure if it was here or not that I read it but some have said there were close up photos of her taken at the accident site which proved she wasn't decapitated but the top of her head was gone. Someone who claimed to be there said he saw something horrific but he would never divulge what it was as he didn't want it to darken a already horrific time. The hag in me has wondered for years what he meant.

    I've seen these pictures many times over the years and the one that always gets to me is the poor chihuahua lying there.
    This site shows closeups of Jayne as well as Sam Brody and the driver of the car. The later is pretty gruesome since it looks like his skull is split in half. I wonder if that was what this person had seen. http://gregsegroves.blogspot.com/201...mansfield.html
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    heh the guy must be a death hag a couple of his pictures came from this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkstracy View Post
    heh the guy must be a death hag a couple of his pictures came from this site.
    Must be! Lol. I just watched a film called Diamonds To Dust about her life. A movie so bad it's good. It ends with closeup photos of the accident taken from different angles. My thought was how did they manage to get these !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansfield67 View Post
    This site shows closeups of Jayne as well as Sam Brody and the driver of the car. The later is pretty gruesome since it looks like his skull is split in half. I wonder if that was what this person had seen. http://gregsegroves.blogspot.com/201...mansfield.html
    I finally found it after going through the whole thread again. I was wrong on a few details as it's been a while since I read it but here is the post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisamarie View Post
    (LET'S END THE DECAPITATION MYTH...I WAS THERE) :

    Jayne had been wearing a blonde wig. It came off of her head when she was thrown out of the Buick by the impact. Some people on the scene saw the wig and assumed it was her real hair and that she had been decapitated. She wasn't. But there was other very obvious physical trauma.

    She lay twisted and broken on the side of the road. What a look of horror on her face...frozen in the terror of her fate.

    And there was another detail of Jayne in death that I saw, that was even apparent in the official pictures I have. But I won't tell that one, in order to respect her final appearance on earth.

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    Thanks for going through the whole thread to find this tidbit ! I wonder what that detail was ?
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    From what I saw on the thread, the main guess seemed to be, that she was secretly bald, had false teeth or an eyeball popped out.

    I did a little looking and found the web page of the guy who made the claim. He says at the time, he was a DJ but got a press pass so was able to go to the crash site but couldn't stomach it and left. It was later he got a copy of the photos. He must have made the claim about what he saw somewhere else as I can't find it on this page. Either that or he deleted it.

    According to him, Ronnie & Sam were physically intact but squashed while Jayne was tossed and landed on the road.

    There is also quotes from the coroner who said : 'Jayne's head was not decapitated, it was intact on her neck, though her head was quite traumatized, especially on her upper forehead and hair line where she had been "scalped" and lost bone and tissue.'

    There is also a quote from the undertaker who said that her face was as 'bad as you get in this business' and he had to work all night to get her presentable. So if he is above board with what he saw, I'm guessing her eye popping out could be it?

    http://neworleansradioshrine.com/faq...mansfield.html

    Most have probably seen it but there's also a copy of her DC

    http://www.neworleansradioshrine.com...rtificate.html
    Last edited by Shellie; 11-12-2020 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Added Info

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