It should be legal
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I'm all for defending love, therefore gay marriage has a big yay from me! The laws here in Britain have been (VERY) slowly changing in line with public sentiment. We do have civil partnerships (which I first wrote as parsnips...) and church wedding are also being pushed for. The CoE and some other religious orgs have been exempt from them, which gets a big booooo hisssss from me.
Originally Posted by ichabodius
Hee, I saw this billboard from The High Line in NYC over the summer! Love it!
Wait, the gays want to get married?! Next they'll be holding down jobs, and paying taxes, and taking out the garbage, and going to the grocery store, and caring for elderly parents, and buying birthday cakes, and going to football games! When will the insanity stop, people!!!???
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Well, it's progress.
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Federal Judge rules Texas' ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional:
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...al-judge-rules
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.
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Sure can tell it's an election year!
I lived in England for a time in the 1990s and the London I saw was very prejudiced against gays. Glad to hear things are better now.
I really dont understand how some can take a book meant for personal consumption (like the Bible or Koran) and try to govern people with it. And I especially dont like when churches try to dictate their brand of morality via legislation yet maintain their tax exempt status. I say take it away, make them pay taxes. But having said that, as a gay woman I would not want to marry in a place that did not want to marry me. Why would anyone want to force someone to marry them? Its supposed to be a happy, loving time and knowing someone is being forced to marry me would be a major buzz kill. That part has never bothered me for some reason. JMO of course.
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Arizona Governor vetoed the anti-gay bill - yay!
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I'm all for it, but it's not something I would do myself ,and I'm gay. As for religion, I was raised a Catholic, and I certainly do not let the hypocrisy of that religion govern what choice I make in life. If God exits, it will be between me and Him.. end of story.
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I agree with you Mansfield. While I don't begrudge anyone's religion, I don't agree with the idea that any man/woman can be elevated to the status of a "living God." I don't think its possible for anyone to speak for God and have the right to say who will and will not be 'saved.' In the end, its God and only God who will say who has earned the right to be admitted to Heaven. I have a very difficult time giving anyone that right and I don't think that people should be told what to do by someone who is as human as the rest of us. Those positions have been abused throughout history to keep people down, to make them do (or not do) things that go against their own judgment. Some people even go so far as to allow others to make decisions regarding their own children because of fear. While every religion has people in positions of power who take full advantage of that position to do unspeakable things to children, what has happened to millions of poor Catholic children in the name of "God," makes my blood run cold. My relationship with God has nothing whatsoever to do with a middle man, a building or a book. If I'm wrong, I'll find out when my time comes.
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
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That's right, to be told my lifestyle is a mortal sin, and then turn around and hear all these stories of sexual abuse at the hands of priests, while the Vatican keeps a lid on it. Please ! I went to Catholic schools, and the mantra was confess your sins, because if you don't ,God doesn't hear you.. talk about putting the fear of God in you ! LOL
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Going to Catholic school must have been brutal. I've heard horror stories!!! I also don't get confession. I mean why confess something that you're just going to continue to do? LOL God knows what's in our hearts, so what comes out of one's mouth really means nothing unless one is truly sorry and stops doing the wrong thing. The priests doing the wrong things is bad enough, but the people who hid the wrongdoing and put them in positions to subject other congregations to them and abuse other families, in my opinion, is far worse. I wonder if they even lose sleep over it? I mean they must know that God isn't fooled by their bogus confessions. How can they go to their own deaths knowing they need to actually explain themselves to Him?
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
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LOL , It wasn't brutal, and I have no horror stories ! But religion was pushed on us, when I was in high school it was pretty much the same, that, and pray for the football team ! (they were a good team, must have been the prayers). I will tell you this, church was a must on Sunday, but as I got older I figured this is all for show, who has the best pew, dressing the best, who put the most money in the collection plate ! I stopped going when I started looking and dressing like Alice Cooper.. this is 1971 of course, I would go on occasion just for the shock value ! I don't think God cares what your wearing as long as you show up and are sincere in your beliefs.
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Well I'm happy to read that you don't have any horror stories!! And this being Texas, we probably pray more for the football teams than all the Catholic schools combined. Its a religion here afterall. LOL
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
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Here it's Hockey... we even have a theme ! I'm sure someone will say what does this have to do with a thread on Gay Marriage , I know gay couples who are married and go to games.. it's all good ! LOL
The backlash by businesses against AZ was wonderful ...
Disney Stops Funding Boy Scouts of America
http://www.nbcnews.com/#/news/us-new...gay-ban-n41986
The Boy Scouts said in a statement that its "disappointed" in Disney's decision, which will "impact our ability to serve kids."
Atypical of the religious right, refuse to be accountable, while playing victim.
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There is NO mandate in the Constitution for “separation of church and state.” It simply forbids the FEDERAL government from establishing a national religion, as in the “Church of England” that was so powerful in Great Britain, backed by the power of the government.
There’s no call to advocate “the destruction of a society because of its religion.” We just want to be able to freely express our beliefs as they are allowed to express theirs. We “have to be tolerant” of their expression of beliefs, but we have to keep our expression of religion private…according to the politically correct Marxists who are forcing their religion of “equality through extortion.”
Welcome Oregon ...
http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/0...0E00KL20140520
(Reuters) - Gay and lesbian couples clamoured to be among the first in Oregon to exchange wedding vows on Monday after a federal judge struck down a state ban on same-sex marriage, sparking a day of celebration amid flowers, cakes and honking car horns.The ruling, which came just before a separate legal victory by gay matrimony advocates in Utah, was the latest in a series of court decisions in other states that if upheld will dramatically expand same-sex couples' marriage rights across the country.
"I'm speechless. We've waited for this moment for at least 10 years," said Christine Tanner, who with her partner joined three other Oregon couples in challenging a 2004 voter-approved state constitutional amendment limiting marriage to heterosexual couples.
Looking forward to Boies and Olson appearing before the Supreme Court within the next few years.
Judge Strikes Down Pennsylvania Gay Marriage Ban
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/us...-marriage.html
This was the lead story yesterday in our state in addition to the primary elections. Last state in the Northeast to allow gay marriage. Fingers crossed that Gov. Corbett doesn't appeal (perhaps he won't, since it's an election year).
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I was hoping we would hear about this today. The Supreme Court has ruled that gay marriage is now legal in all 50 states. I didn't see another thread about this so I hope this one is okay. I hate starting new ones.
Anyway, I'm stoked. After that bullshit decision about Obamacare, at least the Justices did something right!!!!
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Minerva
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I am really happy today! I can now marry my gf of 20 yrs! and here in Tx!
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Congratulations!!! I haven't been able to wipe the smile off my face!!
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
I only have one question:
What on earth took so long?
HOORAY!
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I would like to congratulate our leader Scott Michaels who flashed his marriage license on his FB page. I hope you both have a very long and happy life together.
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I am so happy for so many.
Wow. Rough few days for the conservatives. First attacking their flag, then Obamacare once again resoundingly wins, and now gay marriage officially made constitutional for all. I can't stop grinning. Congrats to all those that this decision will affect.
Congrats, Scott!
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Congratulations, Piggy!!!! Go get married!!!!!
NO KIDDING!!!!! You love who you love, and you can't help that. It's about time that Congress realized that.I only have one question:
What on earth took so long?
HOORAY!
Congrats, Scott!!!
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
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"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
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I love how John Roberts is crying about this. Two years ago he is the deciding vote as to whether the Obamacare penalty was legal, yesterday he turns his back on what was a pretty clear case but ruling that two people who love each other can get married, that he has a problem with.
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Congratulation USA, it's about time
Carolyn(1958-2009) always in my heart.
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So happy to hear this:-D Congrats USA :-D
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Oooo, congrats :-D
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Thanks everyone!!! We are pretty excited. Since gay couples had no rights here, years ago we did wills, living wills etc. so that she can make decisions for me and vice versa. now, we will have rights like anyone else. do you know how that feels? it's great!!
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It's something you should've had all along.Thanks everyone!!! We are pretty excited. Since gay couples had no rights here, years ago we did wills, living wills etc. so that she can make decisions for me and vice versa. now, we will have rights like anyone else. do you know how that feels? it's great!!
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
It's hilarious to watch conservatives calling a conservative Supreme Court a Rogue Court of activist judges. I don't know why I just thought of this but you guys remember that christian music family that got into a fight with cops in that Wal Mart parking lot a few months back? I think a family member got killed and a cop got shot. For some reason I thought of that melee when I hear about the right wing in fighting over this. This is so good on SO many levels
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THIS. ^^^ This, all day long.
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
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The best friend I have in the world lives in Las Vegas. The second him and his partner got word that gay marriage was legal in Nevada they ran to City Hall to get the license. His partner pulled out of the garage so fast that my friend had a soda stain on his shirt. They were wed that night and they even made the news as being one of the first same sex couples to marry in Nevada even though they had a legal civil union.
When you lose a parent you lose your past. When you lose a spouse you lose your present. When you lose a child you lose your future.
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R.I.P Dad http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=93315851
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Congrats to all who can now share the same legal rights as anyone else regarding marriage.
It just doesn't get better than news like this.
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It sure is!! BTW, when do you think there will ever be a black prime minister in England? Oops - nevermind. Wrong thread.
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
He's canadian. The other London is London Ontario.
Unfortunately Texas is not acknowledging the courts ruling. Can't we please just give Texas back to Mexico?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ant/ar-AAcccqw
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Same here. My Army friend I mentioned upthread is planning a ceremony now for her family and friends even as we speak. I believe she had traveled up to Iowa to get married because it was legal there but not in Missouri. Now that it is, she and her wife can celebrate publicly. I'm so happy for them, and for my other gay friend who is planning to marry his boyfriend. Everyone should have the same rights. Equality all around. Why should straight people get all the misery...er...happiness?
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
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ria,your funny (misery part) anywhoo, I do not understand some of the butt-hurt ppl are over gays getting married. how is it hurting your life? how is it impacting you?? you don't want anyone coming into your bedroom, why come in to mine? (hope that made sense).
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Before he posted the marriage license he had posted a pic of himself looking pretty buff. Now we know why. Everybody wants to look their best for their wedding. Congrats to Scott and all other folks who are able to finally get on legal paper what they have been feeling in their hearts and souls. Been married 37 years and it's fucking great...
Um, I don't know if that last line was supposed to be an unintentional pun or not.
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Oh, yeah, I agree.ria,your funny (misery part) anywhoo, I do not understand some of the butt-hurt ppl are over gays getting married. how is it hurting your life? how is it impacting you?? you don't want anyone coming into your bedroom, why come in to mine? (hope that made sense).
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Made perfect sense. I don't understand it, either. Like I said in my post about it on FB, "Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person." The people who are spewing religion (not necessarily hate, just religion) don't realize that Christ wants us to love everyone regardless of their sins. Everyone sins, what makes one person's sin worse than someone else's? For example, how is my friend's gay sex a worse sin than my drinking on Friday nights? My drinking to the point of getting drunk on Friday nights? It's not. It's the same "level" of sin. There is no sin worse than another.ria,your funny (misery part) anywhoo, I do not understand some of the butt-hurt ppl are over gays getting married. how is it hurting your life? how is it impacting you?? you don't want anyone coming into your bedroom, why come in to mine? (hope that made sense).
ETA: This is my post on Facebook:
"I am probably going to get a lot of hate for this, and unfriended by many. But I have to say this. It's about time. This should have never been an issue. Don't like gay marriage? Don't marry a gay person. Two men getting married won't ruin my marriage anymore than my neighbor down the street eating a doughnut won't ruin my diet. Those against gay marriage are spewing religion. But God wants us to love ALL of our neighbors, not just certain ones. Jesus wouldn't discriminate, and why should we? He wants us to love our gay neighbors, straight neighbors, drug addicted neighbors, alcoholic neighbors, black neighbors, atheist neighbors, pagan neighbors. Everyone. Love the sinner, hate the sin. And with that, I proudly support my gay friends getting married so much that I will make their wedding albums if they want me to."
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"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
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Wooohoo!
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I think its wonderful. 2 ppl in love of legal age and of no relation should be able to get married & cement their bond & love for one another
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