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  1. #1
    hlh004 Guest

    Henry Lucas

    Ok first off...
    I searched the forum and not a thread about this man.
    Secondly...what is scary to me is that where he did most of his murders is like 20 mins from my house in Ringgold TX which is super creepy.

    Anyway, Enjoy!!!
    With my comments in RED

    Also, sorry so long, but its really interesting



    Henry Lee Lucas (August 23, 1936 â?? March 13, 2001) was an American criminal, convicted of murder and once listed as America's most prolific serial killer. However, he later recanted his confessions. He once flatly stated "I am not a serial killer" in a letter to researcher Brad Shellady.[1]
    Lucas confessed to involvement in about 3,000 murders, an average of about one murder per day between his release from prison in mid-1975 to his arrest in mid-1983.(ok 3000 murders, seriously?) A more widely circulated total of about 350 murders committed by Lucas is based on confessions deemed "believable" by a Texas-based "Lucas Task Force," a group which was criticized by Texas Attorney General Jim Mattox for sloppy police work and taking part in an extended "hoax".[2]

    Beyond his recantation, some of Lucas' confessions have been challenged as inaccurate by a number of critics, including law enforcement and court officials. Lucas claimed to have been initially subjected to poor treatment and coercive interrogation tactics while in police custody, and that he confessed to murders in an effort to improve his living conditions.(bullshit) This calls into question many of his alleged murders, since his confessions were often the sole evidence cited in favor of his guilt, especially his sole death penalty conviction. Amnesty International reported "the belief of two former state Attorneys General that Lucas was in all likelihood innocent of the crime for which he was sentenced to death." [3]
    Lucas' sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1998 by then-Governor George W. Bush. His was the only death penalty case among the 153 that came across Bush's desk in his tenure as Texas Governor in which he intervened and commuted the death sentence. Lucas died in prison of natural causes. Though Lucas' death seemed to have removed the possibility of resolution in many instances, there are still a number of unresolved or open questions. Some authorities â?? while admitting that Lucas tended to exaggerate his accounts and told some outright lies, and also recognizing that the Lucas Task Force engaged in some very questionable tactics â?? insist that Lucas was a viable suspect in a number of unsolved murders. Despite these factors, Lucas still maintains a reputation, in the words of author Sarah L. Knox, "as one of the world's worst serial killers â?? even after the debunking of the majority of his confessions by the Attorney General of Texas." [4]
    Lucas allegedly carried out many murders with an accomplice, Ottis Toole, whose reputation as a serial killer is mostly unaltered by Lucas' recantations.

    == Lucas was born in Blacksburg, Virginia. He described his mother, Viola Lucas, as a violent prostitute. His father, Anderson Lucas, was an alcoholic and former railroad employee who had lost his legs in a train accident, and who suffered from Viola's wrath as often as his son. Lucas reports that Viola regularly beat him and his half-brother, often for no reason. He once spent three days in a coma after his mother hit his head with a plank of wood, and on many occasions he was forced by his mother to watch her have sex with men. (I cant imangine putting your child through this) Lucas described an incident when he was given a mule as a gift by his father's friends, only to see his mother shoot and kill it.
    When he was a teenager, Lucas claimed to have been introduced to bestiality and zoosadism â?? the latter a common trait among sociopaths, especially those who become serial killers â?? as well as receiving convictions for petty theft. Lucas had also damaged an eye during a fight with his half-brother. His mother ignored the injury for three days, and subsequently the eye grew infected and had to be replaced by a glass eye.
    Lucas claimed to have first murdered in 1951, when he strangled a girl who refused his sexual advances. Like most of his confessions, he later retracted this claim. In 1954, Lucas was convicted on several counts of burglary in and around Richmond, Virginia, and was sentenced to six years' imprisonment. He escaped, was recaptured, and was released in September 1959.
    In late 1959, Lucas moved to Tecumseh, Michigan to live with his half-sister, Opal. Lucas was engaged to marry when his mother visited for Christmas. She disapproved of her son's fiancee and insisted he move back to Virginia. He refused, and they argued repeatedly about his upcoming nuptials. ==

    On January 12, 1960, Lucas killed his mother during the course of an ongoing argument regarding whether or not he should return home to his mother's house to care for her as she grew older. He claims she struck him over the head with a broom, at which point he struck her on the neck and she fell. Lucas then fled the scene.
    She was not in fact dead, and when Lucas' half-sister Opal (with whom he was staying) returned later, she discovered their mother alive in a pool of blood. She called an ambulance, but it turned out to be too late to save Viola Lucas' life. The official police report stated she died of a heart attack precipitated by the assault.
    Lucas returned to Virginia, then says he decided to drive back to Michigan, but was arrested in Ohio on the outstanding Michigan warrant.
    Lucas claimed to have attacked his mother only in self-defense, but his claim was rejected, and he was sentenced to between 20 and 40 years' imprisonment in Michigan for second-degree murder. He served ten and a half years and was released in June 1970.

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    hlh004 Guest
    Drifter
    Lucas drifted around the American South, working a number of mostly short-term jobs. In Florida, he made the acquaintance of Ottis Toole sometime between 1976 and 1978 (sources disagree) and claims to have had a romantic affair with Toole's pubescent niece, Frieda Powell, who had escaped from a juvenile detention facility. Lucas and Toole both called Powell "Becky" sometimes, partly to disguise her identity and because Powell preferred it over her given name. Lucas and Toole were also reportedly lovers. Lucas would later claim that during this period he had killed hundreds of people, sometimes as Toole's partner. The trio left Florida and eventually settled in Stoneburg, Texas, at a religious commune called "The House of Prayer." Ruben Moore, the commune owner and minister, found Lucas a job as a roofer, and allowed Lucas and Powell to live in a small apartment on the commune.
    Powell became homesick, so Lucas agreed to move to Florida with her. Lucas said they argued at a Bowie, Texas truck stop and claimed that Powell left with a trucker. According to Shellady[5], a waitress at the truck stop supported Lucas's account in court.

    [edit] 1983 arrest and multiple confessions

    Lucas was arrested in June 1983 by Texas Ranger Phil Ryan, initially on a firearms violation. He was later charged with killing 82-year-old Kate Rich in Ringgold, Texas, and was also charged with Powell's murder. Lucas claimed that police stripped him naked, denied him cigarettes and bedding, held him in a cold cell, and did not allow him to contact an attorney. After four days of this treatment, Lucas claimed he decided to confess to the crimes in a desperate bid to improve his treatment.
    Lucas confessed to the murders but claimed to be unable to take police to the victims' bodies. He closed out his confession with a hand-written addendum that read[6]: "I am not allowed to contact any one I'm in here by myself and still can't talk to a lawyer on this I have no rights so what can I do to convince you about all this" (sic). When he was finally allowed counsel, Lucas's lawyer described[7] his client's treatment as "inhumane" and "calculated solely to require the defendant to confess guilt, whether innocent or guilty."
    The forensic evidence in the Powell and Rich cases has been criticized as inconclusive.[8] A single bone fragment recovered from a wood-burning stove was said to be Rich's, and a mostly-complete skeleton roughly matched Powell's age and size, but Shellady reports that the coroner stopped short of positively identifying either remains. As with most of his alleged crimes, Lucas has confessed to these murders only to deny involvement later, but the general consensus seems to be that Lucas did indeed murder Powell and Rich.
    Lucas pleaded guilty to the charges, and in open court stated he had "killed about a hundred more women" as well. This was an unexpected confession, and Lucas later claimed to have been despondent over being suspected in Powell's disappearance. Shelladay reports[9] that Lucas said, "If they were going to make me confess to one I didn't do, then I was going to confess to everything." These claims were quickly seized upon by the press, and Lucas, accompanied by Texas Rangers, was soon flown from state to state, to meet with various police agencies in an effort to resolve a number of unsolved murders.
    In November 1983, Lucas was transferred to a jail in Williamson County, Texas, where the Lucas Task Force was soon established. Shelladay describes the task force as "a veritable clearinghouse of unsolved murder." Police officially "cleared" 213 previously unsolved murders via Lucas's confessions.
    Lucas reported that he confessed to murders only because doing so improved his living conditions, and that he received preferential treatment rarely offered to convicts. Others have offered accounts that seem to support Lucas's claims, for example, that Lucas was rarely handcuffed when in custody or being transported, that he was often allowed to wander police stations and jails at will—including knowing the security codes for computerized doors—and that he was frequently taken to restaurants and cafés. On one occasion, in Huntington, West Virginia, Lucas confessed to killing a man whose death had originally been ruled a suicide. The man's widow received a large life insurance settlement that had been denied after the initial suicide verdict. It has been suggested that such treatment demonstrates that the Lucas Task Force did not consider Lucas a threat.
    Texas Ranger Phil Ryan reports that Lucas became so accustomed to such treatment that he began "dictating orders" that were often obeyed by Rangers. Ranger Ryan also reported that he became concerned about the veracity of most of Lucas's confessions, feeling confident in the accuracy of two of Lucas's confessions, and further stated to the Houston Chronicle that "I wouldn't bet a paycheck on any of the others." [10] Shellady reports that in order to expose Lucas' claims, Ryan invented utterly fictional crimes, to which Lucas would generally "confess" involvement, a tactic also employed by Dallas detective Linda Erwin.
    Ranger Ryan reports the manner in which Lucas typically confessed to a number of unsolved murders: If a police agency suspected Lucas, and if Lucas admitted involvement—and his total of some 3,000 confessions suggests he rarely denied complicity—they would send the Lucas Task Force a case file with information pertaining to the unsolved crime. Lucas would be questioned at length and sometimes even allowed to read police reports, thus learning any number of details previously known only to police, which he could then use during interviews.
    The same Houston Chronicle article reports that Erwin interviewed Lucas after he confessed to 13 murders in Houston. Erwin reports that "when I heard it got to be hundreds and hundreds (of confessions), it was unbelievable to me." Erwin further reports that, like Ranger Ryan, she assembled an utterly fictional crime: She "fabricated a case using random photographs from old murders long since solved and details pulled from her imagination ... He claimed credit for the phony crime, and his confession, containing facts she had dribbled out to him, probably could have convinced a jury to convict him, she said." Erwin admitted she was uncomfortable fabricating a crime, but felt it necessary in order to settle questions of Lucas's reliability. Lucas was not charged with any of the crimes he confessed to committing in Dallas.

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    The Lucas Report" and controversy
    Lucas's claims gradually became criticized as outlandish and less likely: He claimed to have been part of a cannibalistic, satanic cult called "The Hand of Death" [11], to have taken part in snuff films, to have killed Jimmy Hoffa, and to have delivered poison to cult leader Jim Jones in Jonestown prior to the notorious mass murder/suicide of Jones's group.
    In response to these claims, and to reports of the Lucas Task Force's questionable investigative methodology, the Texas Attorney General's office issued a study (sometimes called "The Lucas Report") in 1986.
    The bulk of the Lucas Report was devoted to a detailed timeline of Lucas's claimed murders. The report compared Lucas's claims to reliable, verifiable sources for Lucas's whereabouts; the results often contradicted his confessions, and thus cast doubt on most of the crimes in which he was implicated. Attorney General Jim Mattox wrote[12] that "when Lucas was confessing to hundreds of murders, those with custody of Lucas did nothing to bring an end to this hoax," and "We have found information that would lead us to believe that some officials 'cleared cases' just to get them off the books."
    Here are a few examples of crimes the Lucas Task Force ruled "closed" based on Lucas's "confessions," when strong evidence has been cited, indicating Lucas was far from the scene of the crime:

    [edit] Orange Socks

    Ultimately, Lucas was convicted of 11 homicides. He was sentenced to death for the murder of an unidentified woman, dubbed "Orange Socks" after her only clothing, who was discovered in Williamson County, Texas, on Halloween 1979. Lucas's confession was recorded on audio tape and videotape and, when presented at court, had been subject to significant editing, leading critics to speculate that the removed sections showed authorities coaching Lucas on details of the crime.
    Dan Morales, Mattox's successor as Texas Attorney General, concluded that it was "highly unlikely" that Lucas was guilty in the "Orange Socks" case. [13] Though initially skeptical of the Lucas Report, he came generally to support its findings.
    Williamson County prosecutor Cecil Kuykendall discounted Lucas as a suspect in the "Orange Socks" case and has stated his opinion that Lucas's confession drew attention from a far more viable suspect, further noting evidence that Lucas was in Florida, working as a roofer, during the time that "Orange Socks" was killed. As cited in an Amnesty International report, Mattox stated that during the time "Orange Socks" was killed, "work records, check cashing evidence, all information indicating Lucas was somewhere else. [W]e found nothing tying [Lucas] with the crime he confessed to and was convicted of."[14] Mattox's office decided not to intervene, so certain they were that the state appeals court would overturn Lucas's conviction in the "Orange Socks" case.
    Lucas told Shelladay that he confessed to the murder in an effort at "legal suicide," and that he "just wanted to die." Lucas expressed what Shellady describes as "deep regret and sorrow" for offering false confessions, stating that he "was not aware how crooked they [Texas authorities] were until it was too late." The Houston Chronicle article also notes that Lucas offered various motives for his confession spree: Improving his conditions, a desire to embarrass police, and feeling guilt over killing Powell and Rich.
    Adding to the confusion, however, was Lucas's habit of making confessions, recanting them, then offering more confessions, and again recanting them. Mattox, wary of Lucas's many false confessions, suggested in 1999 that in the case of Rafael Resendez-Ramirez "I hope they don't start pinning on him every crime that happens near a railroad track." [15]

    [edit] Clemency and death

    Lucas's supposed confederate, Ottis Toole, died in September 1996 from cirrhosis of the liver. He was serving six life sentences in a Florida prison. In 1998, the Texas Board of Pardon and Parole voted to commute Lucas's death sentence to life imprisonment. Then-Governor George W. Bush recommended the commutation. On March 13, 2001, Lucas died in prison from heart failure.

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    Dissenting opinions
    Several authorities and interested parties remained sure of Lucas's guilt in a number of murders, regardless of his recantations and the controversy surrounding his many confessions. Jim Larson, a sheriff’s department investigator in Scotts Bluff County, Nebraska, questioned Lucas in September 1984 regarding the unsolved 1978 murder of schoolteacher Stella McLean. Larson says he asked deceptive questions to test Lucas, but insists Lucas offered compelling testimony to support his claims of killing McLean. Nobody ever knew if his confessions were not lies.[16]
    Texas General Land Office Commissioner Garry Mauro, then standing for election of Governor of Texas, stated his opinion that "There is no doubt in my mind that Henry Lee Lucas is guilty enough of the murders he confessed to that he earned the death penalty." [17]
    The Houston Chronicle article quotes Harold Murphy of Marianna, Florida, who remained convinced that Lucas killed his daughter Jerilyn in 1981.
    As cited in the above Houston Chronicle article, Texas Ranger Phil Ryan — while strongly criticizing the Lucas Task Force for their questionable methods, and while rejecting the vast majority of Lucas's confessions — concluded that Lucas was a strong suspect in two cases (those of his 15-year-old traveling companion, Becky Powell, and Kate Rich), and thought Lucas was "at most ... responsible for 15 murders." This was still a considerable total, qualifying Lucas as a serial killer according to the FBI's definitions, but well below the claims of hundreds or even thousands of murders. Eric W. Hickey[18] cites an unnamed "investigator" who interviewed Lucas several times, and who concluded Lucas had probably killed about 40 people.
    These statements, among others, make it clear that law enforcement officials and other figures have conflicting opinions as to Lucas's guilt or innocence.

    SORRY SO LONG> GOT TO LOVE WIKIPEDIA!!!

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    Katie Guest
    It is so creepy that you would post this. I just made reservations for a trip to Huntsville, and I was planning on taking my camera, and taking pictures of the prison graves.

    I will bring one back to post, for this sorry piece of crap.

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    Katie Guest
    Another interesting fact. John Walsh is convinced that Toole was the one who killed his son, Adam. Toole would never admit it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie View Post
    Another interesting fact. John Walsh is convinced that Toole was the one who killed his son, Adam. Toole would never admit it.
    i know. i heard that too! and also katie, i LIVE in Huntsville! i have never been but it would be super awesome to go lol.
    where is be buried here? i could snap some pics maybe...

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    Katie Guest
    Why don't we go together? Interested?

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    hlh004 Guest
    sure! im here most of the time. im here for college. when u plannin on going?

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    Katie Guest
    We will be there on the 16th. I will pm you for the details.

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    hlh004 Guest
    ok. ill be here!

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    RaRaRamona Guest
    I'm so sad for John Walsh & his wife. They have never gotten closure.

    Have you seen the movie? It was hard to watch. I couldn't watch parts of it.

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    hlh004 Guest
    i have not seen it. what is it called?

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    Jazbabee Guest
    What a worthless piece of shit.....his pictures have always given me the creeps !

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    hlh004 Guest
    do u really think that he killed 3000+ people tho?
    what would he do with all the bodies etc?

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    RaRaRamona Guest
    Yeah, is that like "I slept with 10,000 women?" How many did he name? I don't think it'd be possible to kill that many people - not in a serial killer fashion. It would take too long.

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    hlh004 Guest
    ya thats what im thinking. i think most of it is bragging etc. its kinda creepy, the chruch where he threw the old lady and burned her is in ringgold and everytime we go to our deer lease we drive by the place....creeeepy

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    RaRaRamona Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by hlh004 View Post
    ya thats what im thinking. i think most of it is bragging etc. its kinda creepy, the chruch where he threw the old lady and burned her is in ringgold and everytime we go to our deer lease we drive by the place....creeeepy
    Is there a tally of how many he was proven to have killed?

    You could rent the movie but it's so harsh. I bet there are books.

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    hlh004 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by RaRaRamona View Post
    Is there a tally of how many he was proven to have killed?

    You could rent the movie but it's so harsh. I bet there are books.
    when he was in prision he was admitting to about 1 killing every day and said that he confessed to over 3000 people, but then said that the only reason that he confessed to those was because he thought that if he did he would get out of prision early. im sure there are books but i dont know of any at the moemnt.

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    Katie Guest
    I don't think we will ever know for sure.

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    No, we'll never & I hate it so much for the Walshes. I truly think they've made peace with it though b/c they know who killed their son. He has done more good than anyone could have imagined.

    I think



    if it had happened to me




    I would rewind time to get my son back.


    I know that's horrible and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie View Post
    Another interesting fact. John Walsh is convinced that Toole was the one who killed his son, Adam. Toole would never admit it.
    Didn't he admit it once and then later deny he did it?
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    Katie Guest
    John Walsh once said that his son died for a reason. Without his death, John would have never done what he has on behalf of victims everywhere.

    God Bless John Walsh his family, and little Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlh004 View Post
    Ok first off...
    I searched the forum and not a thread about this man.
    Secondly...what is scary to me is that where he did most of his murders is like 20 mins from my house in Ringgold TX which is super creepy.

    Anyway, Enjoy!!!
    With my comments in RED

    Also, sorry so long, but its really interesting



    Henry Lee Lucas (August 23, 1936 â?? March 13, 2001) was an American criminal, convicted of murder and once listed as America's most prolific serial killer. However, he later recanted his confessions. He once flatly stated "I am not a serial killer" in a letter to researcher Brad Shellady.[1]
    Lucas confessed to involvement in about 3,000 murders, an average of about one murder per day between his release from prison in mid-1975 to his arrest in mid-1983.(ok 3000 murders, seriously?) A more widely circulated total of about 350 murders committed by Lucas is based on confessions deemed "believable" by a Texas-based "Lucas Task Force," a group which was criticized by Texas Attorney General Jim Mattox for sloppy police work and taking part in an extended "hoax".[2]

    Beyond his recantation, some of Lucas' confessions have been challenged as inaccurate by a number of critics, including law enforcement and court officials. Lucas claimed to have been initially subjected to poor treatment and coercive interrogation tactics while in police custody, and that he confessed to murders in an effort to improve his living conditions.(bullshit) This calls into question many of his alleged murders, since his confessions were often the sole evidence cited in favor of his guilt, especially his sole death penalty conviction. Amnesty International reported "the belief of two former state Attorneys General that Lucas was in all likelihood innocent of the crime for which he was sentenced to death." [3]
    Lucas' sentence was commuted to life in prison in 1998 by then-Governor George W. Bush. His was the only death penalty case among the 153 that came across Bush's desk in his tenure as Texas Governor in which he intervened and commuted the death sentence. Lucas died in prison of natural causes. Though Lucas' death seemed to have removed the possibility of resolution in many instances, there are still a number of unresolved or open questions. Some authorities â?? while admitting that Lucas tended to exaggerate his accounts and told some outright lies, and also recognizing that the Lucas Task Force engaged in some very questionable tactics â?? insist that Lucas was a viable suspect in a number of unsolved murders. Despite these factors, Lucas still maintains a reputation, in the words of author Sarah L. Knox, "as one of the world's worst serial killers â?? even after the debunking of the majority of his confessions by the Attorney General of Texas." [4]
    Lucas allegedly carried out many murders with an accomplice, Ottis Toole, whose reputation as a serial killer is mostly unaltered by Lucas' recantations.

    == Lucas was born in Blacksburg, Virginia. He described his mother, Viola Lucas, as a violent prostitute. His father, Anderson Lucas, was an alcoholic and former railroad employee who had lost his legs in a train accident, and who suffered from Viola's wrath as often as his son. Lucas reports that Viola regularly beat him and his half-brother, often for no reason. He once spent three days in a coma after his mother hit his head with a plank of wood, and on many occasions he was forced by his mother to watch her have sex with men. (I cant imangine putting your child through this) Lucas described an incident when he was given a mule as a gift by his father's friends, only to see his mother shoot and kill it.
    When he was a teenager, Lucas claimed to have been introduced to bestiality and zoosadism â?? the latter a common trait among sociopaths, especially those who become serial killers â?? as well as receiving convictions for petty theft. Lucas had also damaged an eye during a fight with his half-brother. His mother ignored the injury for three days, and subsequently the eye grew infected and had to be replaced by a glass eye.
    Lucas claimed to have first murdered in 1951, when he strangled a girl who refused his sexual advances. Like most of his confessions, he later retracted this claim. In 1954, Lucas was convicted on several counts of burglary in and around Richmond, Virginia, and was sentenced to six years' imprisonment. He escaped, was recaptured, and was released in September 1959.
    In late 1959, Lucas moved to Tecumseh, Michigan to live with his half-sister, Opal. Lucas was engaged to marry when his mother visited for Christmas. She disapproved of her son's fiancee and insisted he move back to Virginia. He refused, and they argued repeatedly about his upcoming nuptials. ==

    On January 12, 1960, Lucas killed his mother during the course of an ongoing argument regarding whether or not he should return home to his mother's house to care for her as she grew older. He claims she struck him over the head with a broom, at which point he struck her on the neck and she fell. Lucas then fled the scene.
    She was not in fact dead, and when Lucas' half-sister Opal (with whom he was staying) returned later, she discovered their mother alive in a pool of blood. She called an ambulance, but it turned out to be too late to save Viola Lucas' life. The official police report stated she died of a heart attack precipitated by the assault.
    Lucas returned to Virginia, then says he decided to drive back to Michigan, but was arrested in Ohio on the outstanding Michigan warrant.
    Lucas claimed to have attacked his mother only in self-defense, but his claim was rejected, and he was sentenced to between 20 and 40 years' imprisonment in Michigan for second-degree murder. He served ten and a half years and was released in June 1970.
    I'm sorry but this whole thing sounds like the punchline of a Jeff Foxworthy joke!

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    Xtine Guest
    isn't Slaughter Lane in Austin, TX named because of some of his killings?
    ~I should know this being a texan~

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    chopper Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by RaRaRamona View Post
    Is there a tally of how many he was proven to have killed?

    You could rent the movie but it's so harsh. I bet there are books.
    He was convicted of 8 murders.
    Although the authorities closed the the file's on i think around 25 or 30 cases they believed he was involved with.
    Last edited by chopper; 02-09-2008 at 05:18 PM.

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    Katie Guest
    I'm not sure he remembered all of them. Over the years he lived in such a fantasy world.

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    RaRaRamona Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Xtine View Post
    isn't Slaughter Lane in Austin, TX named because of some of his killings?
    ~I should know this being a texan~
    I'm a native & I never heard that either. I did some searching but didn't find any info. That'd be gruesome!

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    Katie Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by RaRaRamona View Post
    I'm a native & I never heard that either. I did some searching but didn't find any info. That'd be gruesome!
    I am not sure why they would name anything after him, except his tombstone.

    He was not something to be proud of.

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    RaRaRamona Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie View Post
    I am not sure why they would name anything after him, except his tombstone.

    He was not something to be proud of.

    I agree. I don't know why a developer would think people would want to live on that street. I can't imagine someone thinking that'd be a good idea.

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    Katie Guest
    I have done some checking, and can find no such street.

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    RaRaRamona Guest
    I read several references to tot he road but not a reason for the naming. I assume it was a family name "Slaughter." We have roads & a parkway named after my family in TX.

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    Katie Guest
    I was just about to type that. I'll bet it's a family name.

    For those of you who don't know. Lucas caused more than just alot of press for Texas. It gave then a very bad name, as far as tourisum. The state had to step up efforts to encourage people to visit, because of this bad man.

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    Screwtape Guest
    Got him too.


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    InBruges Guest
    Never saw his grave before Screwtape thanks. I heard a rumour that the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was based on him.

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    Screwtape Guest
    That cemetery was interesting, all of the markers are made by the inmates and only a foot high. It's where they bury all the unclaimed bodies after execution. There is no sign, no ditch, no fence, no gate and no shoulder on the highway that goes right past it. Just road, then a big patch of dead people.

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    InBruges Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Screwtape View Post
    That cemetery was interesting, all of the markers are made by the inmates and only a foot high. It's where they bury all the unclaimed bodies after execution. There is no sign, no ditch, no fence, no gate and no shoulder on the highway that goes right past it. Just road, then a big patch of dead people.
    Creepy, and lonely. There could be others who don't even have headstones.

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    Many years ago i watched a movie called Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer . http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099763/ It seemed like a pretty accurate portrayal of his life.

    Henry was a very sick individual who should have been taken out years ago.

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    hlh004 Guest
    i live about 3 blocks from that cemetary in Huntsville, but have never been! it IS in such a weird spot, no place to pull over really.

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    InBruges Guest
    Is really isolated? He should have been taken out. Sick man.

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    I read a book on this guy years ago, I can't remember the name of it, I borrowed it from a friend

    Based on the book, this guy was a real sicko - had sex with a two year old child and told the author how much he enjoyed it - bastard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtine View Post
    isn't Slaughter Lane in Austin, TX named because of some of his killings?
    ~I should know this being a texan~
    Slaughter Creek is nearby.
    I think the road was there long before Lucas became infamous.
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    http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/library/a...eets/names.htm

    Slaughter Lane
    Named from nearby Slaughter Creek, which was named for Stephen F. Slaughter, who received the original grant of land in the area on March 12, 1835, and was one of the first settlers in the current Travis County area (originally part of Bastrop County).
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    Here is a great article by Dave McGowan:
    http://www.whale.to/b/henry.html
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    A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InBruges View Post
    Never saw his grave before Screwtape thanks. I heard a rumour that the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was based on him.
    I think that's Ed Gein

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