Finally. Nasty bastard.
Renowned Death Hag
Finally. Nasty bastard.
The Tiny Terror Moderator
Goodbye, fuckface!!!!!! Good riddance!!!!! Heaven? Nope. You're going down under, and I don't mean Australia, either. Deuces!
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
Ban death penalty
LMAO!! Dunno why but that made me laugh. Check this out. Hilarious shit. "Gotta Go! Gotta Go!!"Originally Posted by Mammy
OMG, that made me laugh hard!
The Tiny Terror Moderator
ROFL!!!! Love it!!!!
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
Death Hag Extraordinaire
That was funny stew. "Gotta Go Gotta Go!"
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I couldn't find the video for it. I guess I can show ya the entire special and tell ya the time he starts the death penalty stuff. 100 times funnier seeing it. Robin died way too youngDo yourself a favor and watch the whole thing. You'll cry laughing the whole time!! The death penalty stuff starts at 11:00
Death Hag
That is one of the worst crimes I've ever heard of! Holy shit, they raped her, shot her, put drain cleaner in her, AND pushed her off a cliff? Let me at that bitch or her stupid husband!
Renowned Death Hag
"Death has come to your little town, Sheriff." -Dr. Loomis
Pro death penalty quotes
http://prodpquotes.info/prodp/defaul...-in-the-usa-ii
I think its a good idea if you want revenge, but its not a deterrent because people still kill people no matter where they live, in a place where there is the death penalty or not, if someone killed a loved one of mine Id want them dead.
Renowned Death Hag
It's playing to emotion and that has no place in any discussion such as the death penalty or any punishment for that matter. If somebody killed my friend or family memeber, of course I'd want them dead... and that is precisely why my opinion should not be taken into consideration in that situation.
Logic trumps emotion every time. Death penalty = Revenge, More expensive, kills innocent people, and is hypocritical. I've never seen a single argument that supports it that makes any sense other than a plea to emotion.
If you support the death penalty, you support the murder of the odd innocent person. There's no avoiding it. That alone should be enough to abolish it. You can't bring innocent people back to life, but can release them from a life sentence.
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"Death has come to your little town, Sheriff." -Dr. Loomis
Death penalty=Punishment, the person executed is being punished for murdering someone and will never have the opportunity to murder anyone else.
Absolutely Mammy. I'd bee with beep on the argument about innocents being killed with the death penalty. That's why for many years I was against the death penalty. However now we can say to a 100% certainty someone is guilty. So let em die. Punishment DOES have a place in a court of law. I'm all for rehabilitation for non-violent offenders, but people getting the death penalty are not those people.
Take the Luke Magnotta case in Canada that's going on right now. No doubt of his guilt. Murdered, mutilated, and chopped up another human being on camera and posting it for all to see. For nothing at all other than his own amusement. Why should that animal be allowed to live while the innocent person he so viciously and sadistically killed will never breathe again? Society shouldn't have to justify killing this animal. He should try to justify his life. You justify it beep. Justify it to the victims family and friends.
beep if you're worried about the expense I have the answer. The reason it's more expensive to give a person death is because we give them unlimited appeals and house them for decades after their sentence. It's lawyer and court time that is the expense. So we stop giving them unlimited appeals and start killing them within a year of their sentence. Of course these could be waived if a person has legit reasons for appeal. But 99% of these appeals are nonsense that are allowed because a certain percentage of the judge's and lawmakers are against the death penalty so allow the sham.
The lawyers are exactly what drive the costs up in death penalty cases. There is a trial going on in Washington right now for a man named Joseph McEnroe. He and his live in girlfriend ambushed her family on Christmas Eve of 2007 and murdered them with gunshots to the head. They killed her father, mother, brother, sister-in-law, five year old niece, and three year old nephew. They are being tried separately and his trial just started this past week after over seven years of delays brought about by lawyers for multiple competency hearings, whether they should be charged with the death penalty, the girlfriend firing her lawyers multiple times, etc. There is absolutely no doubt of their guilt. They both confessed in gruesome detail to the murders, the cleanup afterwards, the motive, the last words and actions of the victims, and much more. The sister-in-law begged for her children not to be murdered and he shot the little boy point blank in the head as she held him clutched to her chest. Pieces of his skull with hair still attached were found embedded in her chest. They've never denied killing everyone or expressed any remorse. They should have been tried, sentenced, and executed a long time ago. Nearly ten million dollars had been spent on the case before the first trial ever began and it's still months away from her trial starting. Their lawyers know they are guilty as sin, but couldn't resist milking the system as long as possible. That in itself should be a crime.
Death Hag Extraordinaire
They should have a "Quick Lane" for cases where there is no reasonable doubt. Save the appeals for when there might be a reasonable doubt. Gotta Go, Gotta Go!
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The Tiny Terror Moderator
Maybe an express lane?
"If more than three people saw you do what you did, you don't sit on death row for fifteen years, Jack, you go to the front of the line. Some states are trying to abolish the death penalty. My state's puttin' in an express lane!"
~~~~Ron White, who is from Texas
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
I just can't understand how people can hear about some of these horrific cases and think the death penalty is not appropriate. Everyone has a right to their own opinion and I respect that, but even death by execution is far more humane than the deaths these evil beasts inflict on their victims. There is no punishment bad enough for someone who shoots a three year old in the head who is looking right into his eyes while the child's mother is begging and pleading for their lives. Just this past week, Kentucky's longest serving prisoner died in prison after being there 54 years! Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay to keep a murderer alive in prison for 54 years. There's no excuse for it.
Death Hag Extraordinaire
You got me. That's where the idea come from. That guy makes me laugh 'till I can't breathe.
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The Tiny Terror Moderator
Me, too. All of the Blue Collar Boys, actually, make me laugh till I can't breathe.
Some of these crimes, though, death is the only punishment fitting. Especially assholes who rape children. They deserve to die. After they are castrated.
"Tequila may not be the answer, but it's worth a shot."
"I just go here!"
"I am not psychic. I AM psychotic. BIG difference."
Death Hag Extraordinaire
People that kill children, and I consider sexual abuse of a young'un death of a child hood shouldn't make it to the main jail. Have a factory set up to process them to hog chow. Good protein for a pig when it's eaten' long pig.
Stay in Drugs. Eat your School. Don't do Vegetables.
"They be talkin bout, 'I killed all those people cuz I'm crazy'... yeah? well I'm a lil crazy too. have a seat!" TCH!! "Gotta go Gotta go!"
Death Hag
In principle I'm against the death penalty. But as George Orwell said, there are some people who are so dangerous that it's irresponsible to keep them alive. And a few crimes are so horrific and inhuman that I really can't stay iron-clad in my opposition to executing the perpetrators.
Renowned Death Hag
Believe it or not, it's cheaper to imprison someone for 54 years than execute them.
Still not laughing about the death penalty, except for comedians with catchphrases, unless those comedians are British.
Renowned Death Hag
Jodi Arias comes to mind immediately.
Renowned Death Hag
Can we have her hold hands with Dennis Lynn Rader, the BTK killer? He's been in jail since 2005, can't believe another inmate hasn't knocked him off yet.
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Renowned Death Hag
Jodi Arias is who comes to mind? Brain spins and not understanding .. Ok then. Jodi Arias??
British form of capital punishment?....... Dentistry!!!! Shaboing! Shaboing!! Zip Zip ZEEEEEEEEEEEEP!! Jokes!!!
BLAMMO . . . Caribou goooooorrrn.
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I have always been on the fence when it comes to the death penalty, and the biggest reason is Cameron Todd Willingham, I think he was executed for a crime he didn't commit. As someone commented earlier, it is actually cheaper for us to house them the rest of their miserable lives than to execute them, but I'm never sorry to see the guilty ones (Ted Bundy, Timothy McVeigh) go. I know if I had to be caged forever I would want death.
By my troth, I care not; a man can die but once; we owe God a death.... He that dies this year is quit for the next.
--William Shakespeare!
Cameron Todd Willingham's case just eats me up. I am completely convinced of his innocence. The more the state tries to keep information from coming out, the guiltier they look and the more innocent he looks. Rick Perry is a douchebag.
Renowned Death Hag
exactly well said
Thank you! Some cases really are that simple. If there is plenty of evidence that proves a person's guilt, I have no problem with the death penalty at all.
Renowned Death Hag
The problem with giving life is that killers have been known to commit murders in prison. Even though the person being killed is a felon, the State has a responsibility to make sure they're kept safe. If someone continues to kill even in prison, then that person has earned the right to be executed. Some crimes deserve the ultimate punishment.
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
This article isn't very new, but I had never seen it, so it was new to me. It is heart breaking to read, but tells about the feelings of a murdered little girl's family after waiting 32 years for her confessed murderer to finally be executed.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/re...h-penalty-laws
Renowned Death Hag
That is very heartbreaking, she fought so hard. Damn.
I don't get the 32 year wait.
Renowned Death Hag
Looks like Oklahoma is going to make good on a sentence today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Wednesday.html
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
Death Hag Extraordinaire
They didn't. Jagoff got a last minute stay.
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Renowned Death Hag
I'm kind of thinking it's not "necessary"; and that's a big change in thinking for me.
Not that some people don't deserve it (IMO); but that it's not really needed as a form of punishment.
A faulty hypothesis forming:
A German scientist using Iranian physics and French mathematics.
it was the first thing South Africa disposed of, when it threw away the chains of apartheid
Renowned Death Hag
I wasn't horribly surprised. Its not like I dance around being happy when its time for someone to die but I'm not disappointed when it happens either.
I understand how you could feel this way. I try to feel the same way, but in some cases, I still feel that its an absolute necessity.
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
personally i believe the state/or the individual should never have the power to kick anyone off the planet ... and i can't think of an exception that could of been prevented by treating underlying factors ... but nor do i believe in passive resistance to evil, as there are many fates worse than death
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Renowned Death Hag
I know it's not a deterrent. That doesn't make me not believe in it though. I agree that it's probably not necessary, but I still think sometimes it's the best alternative. Personally I see a difference in ending someone's life for your own pleasure or gain and ending it because they have done something horrible. They are not equal to me, just like killing someone for fun and killing someone for self defense is different. And no I am not equating the death penalty with self defense, I am just disagreeing with those who say murder is murder is murder.
The only thing that would make me change my mind is if those in prison for life got the bare minimum to sustain life, water, food, a bed. No getting your degree, no TV, no visits from your family. No getting married and especially no conjugal visits. These are all the things they chose to take away from someone else (and their loved ones) when they chose to kill them, so it's ridiculous for us to pay for them to continue to have even the smallest pleasures in life. Sit in your cell, by yourself and if you want any pictures or letters they can be of your victims and from their families reminding you how much you've taken from them.
^^^ THIS!!!
Well stated.
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Renowned Death Hag
a good look at San Quentin's death row
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ntin-jail.html
Renowned Death Hag
I hope the person who does the dusting in that place at least makes a living. That's all its good for.
To understand the living, you got to commune with the dead.
Minerva
Renowned Death Hag
I'm only replying to say this: I think there's actually a website that tells you who's on Death Row and whether or not the state executed them or not. I'd have to look again.
Here it is: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/
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