Shanda Sharer

Kellycatt1 · 05-20-2011, 10:43 PM

I want to give her mom all the credit, I do not know if I could be in the same room with her and not do something I would regret. I agree that neither one of them seems to want to take credit for what they did,, I just want to cry when I think of that poor little girl and what they did to her.

**saturnine** · 05-20-2011, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by mammyofthree

Yeah, I can see that. But that still is not really taking responsibility for her actions that led to the brutal murder of a little girl. I don't blame her for not wanting to admit what she did, but everyone already knows her part of the crime from her previous interviews and court testimony. I just don't see the point of her wanting to gloss over the gory details to try to make herself look better when the real truth is already out there.

Oh trust me, I was definitely not defending Laurie. Just giving a possible reason for what she was saying.

pvezz · 05-21-2011, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by majcm

Of course, they teased it until MOnday to show the real meeting..psh. But I just admire Jacque so much and Paige too, I hate to see how embittered it has made Paige. I see it more in her than her mom. Also did you catch what paige said...itwas kind of cut off, but about them takng Shanda's mickey mouse watch. then Jacque says Melinda still has one of shandas rings that melinda wears all the time. Paige them said ''She says she's "married' to her ==Shanda. It gets cut off but gack;;;just MORE sickness to these criminals!!!

And I really HATE that they are giving "that Amanda" (that will always be MY moniker for her, no first name-last name) any TV time at all. I think she has gotten off on the "fame" of this situation and has never really had remorse. And if you ask remorse for what? No, she was not involved in the crime, but should have felt bad for drawing a 12 YEAR OLD CHILD into a lesbian love triange (violent one at that) when they were 16 year olds. If not for that Amanda, none of it would have happened. I think she thought it made her look like she was SO wanted for a girlfriend they would KILL for her. At least that's the take I have on things I've read her say on message boards since that time.

I heard that! Wonder what she was talking about, married to??

I agree with you; her mom sees to have come to terms with it (as best one could), but her sister is just a knotted ball of hate. So very sad.

Mammy · 05-22-2011, 12:10 AM

I think Jacque is one of the most remarkable women that I have ever seen to be in the position she is in. She truly is a victim's advocate, Shanda's voice, and she has so much dignity in the way she deals with Shanda's death. She knows every horrible detail that her baby went through and she still just does whatever needs doing for Shanda. I had never seen Paige before the Dr. Phil show, but it is obvious that she struggles daily with the hurt and anger of Shanda's murder. I think she showed a lot of restraint and class on the show also. I can't imagine being in either one of their shoes.

majcm · 05-23-2011, 01:03 PM

OMG...if possible I hate Amanda even more than I did! What a smug, self-centered creature she is!! She has a rough life ahead of her (and I do HOPE so) if she cannot see that she is responsible for a lot of what happened. Shows she has not changed one bit and looks like has gotten more selfish than she was!! I happen to know she LIED about talking to police beforehand & can't believe Jacque didn't say that, but I guess they have to edit for time.

I am so proud of how Jacque handled herself and dealt with Hope. Paige really let her hate come through and I hope that helped her. I also hope Dr. Phil's advice will help her also. I believe Jacque has already used that advice to a point in her life, probably to the point that she can, but poor Paige is still so filled with hate, I know Shanda would want her to be happy, not spend her life grieving. Bless them both and also Shanda and her dad, Steve.

**Jerseysucks** · 05-23-2011, 01:25 PM

That mother had so much strength and courage to face the murderer who took her childs life.
The one who got out of jail is disgusting and the mother and her daughter had to sit and talk to this stain.
Even though the experience disgusted her and the daughter and you could tell they were both ready to pounce. They did seem a little better at the end of the show. They vented and I know she will never forgive any of those pieces of shit that raped tortured and set her daughter on fire twice it did seem to calm them down a little bit.
There will never be closure and there will never be forgiveness maybe a little healing of the heart even if it's on;y slight.
I would love to meet this poor mother and daughter and just hug them and have that hug last a good long while.

**saturnine** · 05-23-2011, 06:02 PM

But, but, but Amanda got kicked off the BASKETBALL TEAM!

trishsixxm · 05-23-2011, 07:54 PM

Dammit I was hoping the episode would loaded onto You tube but it hasn't. I saw a little bit of it at work. I can't even begin to think about Shanda's pain and fear on that horrible night. Bless her little heart and that of her family.

Mammy · 05-24-2011, 03:11 PM

I just got a chance to watch the second segment today. OMG, I am so fucking mad I could explode!!! Amanda Heavrin is one of the most nauseating creatures that I have ever laid eyes on. She lied her ass off during the entire interview. She never warned anyone before Shanda was harmed and she knew it was going to happen. Now she wants to play the victim. Poor wittle me, I got kicked off the basketball team. I never came on to Shanda, she pursued me. Her family has made my life rough. Waaaah, they called me a child molester. Her Dad could have done more to keep her safe. That piece of shit said all of these things and sat there all smug and self righteous like SHE had been wronged. She is the reason that Shanda was tortured and is dead. She started it all. She WAS a child molester, whether she wants to admit it or not. Obviously in her mind she is an innocent victim and poor little Shanda is just a footnote. She doesn't care about what happened to Shanda. I can't believe she had the nerve to complain about Jacque making her life rough and especially insinuating that Steve could have done more to protect Shanda. She is as rotted inside as the rest of them, an empty shell where a human should be. I hope her life sucks from now until she does the world a favor and drops dead!

I know that there is nothing that Hope can say to Jacque and Paige to change their feelings toward her, but I can't help but to feel that it took an extraordinary amount of courage to face them knowing their feelings about her. She didn't have to show up or talk to them, but she did, unlike Amanda's sorry ass who wouldn't meet them face to face but would only be interviewed away from them. She wouldn't have made so many snide jabs if she was facing them. I honestly think that Hope regrets the part she played in Shanda's death and I don't think she is any threat to society. She deserved the things that Jacque and Paige said to her and they have every right to be angry that she isn't in prison. She should have served her entire sentence and she should not be free. I do think she is trying to make amends, it just isn't possible. I really feel horrible for Jacque and Paige and for Shanda's poor dad, Steve, even though he is gone. There is no way a person could live a normal life after what they have been through. My heart hurts for all of them.

stacebabe · 05-27-2011, 08:41 AM

I just watched a clip of Amanda on Dr. Phil - I am speechless. SHE suffered?? Because she was KICKED OFF THE BASKETBALL TEAM. WHAT! A 12 year old girl was tortured and murdered and burned alive, and you got kicked off the basketball team?!?! Was that your life plan, Amanda? To be the next Larry F'ng Bird? She sounds really pissed about it.

Rumors of 12 year old children being tortured and burned alive aren't just everyday occurrences, when you hear that, you TELL SOMEONE - Whether or not you think it's true is irrelevant!!!

Mulvaness · 05-27-2011, 02:43 PM

Mammy~ I was thinking the same thing about it taking balls on her part to face them. She will never be able to make up for what she has done but, like Dr. Phil was saying, I hope that she can do something to stop that kind of violence as she gets older. People can be rehabilitated, I think of Tookie as an example.
As far as Amanda goes, I think she pissed me off more than anything on the show.. She has got narcissism to an art..

**saturnine** · 06-06-2011, 03:43 PM

Today is Shanda's birthday. She would've been 32.

Mammy · 06-06-2011, 04:00 PM

Amanda has a Facebook page that is public. She really loves all of the attention she gets because people recognize her name. She likes to play the innocent, misunderstood victim. I don't know if all of her poor spelling is from trying to look gangsta or she is just really that dumb. It is like deciphering a foreign language!

**saturnine** · 06-06-2011, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by mammyofthree

Amanda has a Facebook page that is public. She really loves all of the attention she gets because people recognize her name. She likes to play the innocent, misunderstood victim. I don't know if all of her poor spelling is from trying to look gangsta or she is just really that dumb. It is like deciphering a foreign language!

I think she's just pretty dumb, judging from the way she talks/acts on her her multiple television appearances and her indecipherable internet posts. She types like a fourteen-year old on crack.

Mammy · 06-06-2011, 05:01 PM

Yeah, I was leaning more toward her being dumb. It is hard to tell with people anymore because a lot of them seem to think it is cool to spell words wrong and add extra letters, but it is mostly teenagers that do it not 34 year olds!

Mulvaness · 06-06-2011, 05:15 PM

Her facebook wall actually looks like she "tried" to do a better job. The stuff that I have seen on Yahoo & Topix lists are horrendous!

**saturnine** · 06-06-2011, 05:23 PM

Are you two in the FB group?

**wildcatgrrl** · 06-06-2011, 05:51 PM

Posts an RIP message about Nate Dogg but all she has to say about Shanda is telling people to leave her alone, she didn't put the knife to her throat. Got it.

PurrPurr · 06-06-2011, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by saturnine

Today is Shanda's birthday. She would've been 32.

Poor girl. To think she'd probably been a successful, beautiful young woman with kids of her own. UGH...makes me mad that those girls robbed Shanda of her life and what could've been.

**pkstracy** · 06-07-2011, 07:31 PM

okay just for the hell of it i requested them to be friends on my face book page...I just want to see if I can get one of them to talk to me. Maybe pretend that I am writing a paper on the murder for my psych class.

**pkstracy** · 06-07-2011, 08:09 PM

I am not sure if I will get in trouble by the mods for posting this, is it breaking a rule to post the address and phone of a place of business, I have the address and phone number of where Hope works. She works at the Sleepy Hollow Pet Ranch I am almost tempted to call it when they are open to see if she would answer.

**saturnine** · 06-07-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by pksgigi

I am not sure if I will get in trouble by the mods for posting this, is it breaking a rule to post the address and phone of a place of business, I have the address and phone number of where Hope works. She works at the Sleepy Hollow Pet Ranch I am almost tempted to call it when they are open to see if she would answer.

Someone has called and asked for "Anna" before. Hope answered and was pretty irate. I wouldn't bother her at her job, personally.

With regards to Facebook, Amanda is an attention whore and accepts every friend request. Toni usually doesn't.

newsocks · 06-07-2011, 11:56 PM

is the Dr. Phil episode anywhere on the net?
my mom was watching it the other night but i was in and out and didnt stay to watch

majcm · 06-08-2011, 09:50 AM

Mulvaness · 06-09-2011, 12:11 AM

I am not a member of any group but, since the Dr. Phil show came out, Amanda has made her facebook wall public so anyone can view it.

Mulvaness · 06-09-2011, 12:23 AM

I was trying to send the 1st link to someone on facebook and I got the "This content is blocked/abusive material" thing.. It would not let me post it for anything! argh!

**Shejay** · 06-09-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by majcm

Thank you so much for posting these links - it so sucked that Dr. Phil doesnt come on here anymore - mainly for reasons like this.

I wonder how in the world that Mother and Daughter were able to keep their cool - sitting across from that spineless bitch. I can't say that I would have been that good of a person.

Oogie Boogie · 06-09-2011, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by racingfan

Cruel Sacrifice focused way too much on Melinda too -- the author went on and on about how beautiful she was too -- kinda makes you wonder if the author had a little thing for her...

I saw Aphrodite Jones on a talk show when this book initially came out and she compared Melinda to "A young Brooke Shields". Not sure what reality Aphrodite is living in or if she just needs new contact lenses, but just because the girl wasn't "don't look on a full stomach" UGLY doesn't make her Brooke Shields.

majcm · 06-09-2011, 02:54 PM

You're welcome Shejay. I don't want anyone to forget Shanda. And as many people to pray for Jacque & Paige as they can. They will need prayers the rest of their lives.

newsocks · 06-09-2011, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Shejay

Thank you so much for posting these links - it so sucked that Dr. Phil doesnt come on here anymore - mainly for reasons like this.

I wonder how in the world that Mother and Daughter were able to keep their cool - sitting across from that spineless bitch. I can't say that I would have been that good of a person.

i think i am reading this sentence wrong.
did you mean Dr. Phil doesnt come on this forum? haha

trishsixxm · 06-09-2011, 08:05 PM

That was a tough thing to watch. How exactly did the Hope and the other girl get out so early????

**saturnine** · 06-09-2011, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by newsocks

i think i am reading this sentence wrong.
did you mean Dr. Phil doesnt come on this forum? haha

This was my first thought too! LOL. I'm 99% certain that she means the show doesn't come on in her area anymore.

**Shejay** · 06-10-2011, 11:57 AM

Sorry - I get a little excited when I respond, it does read kinda funny... =)

On that note, I bet he is a creeper...

majcm · 06-10-2011, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by trishsixxm

That was a tough thing to watch. How exactly did the Hope and the other girl get out so early????

Trishsixxm....In Indiana, if an inmate serves good time, they get 2 days off their sentence for every one day of good time. So Toni Lawrence served her time, but Rippey still got out earlier. The only thing else I know she did was get her college degree (I don't know what in and I don't care). She should still be in there.

I'm mixed about Toni. She didn't hurt her, but she had PLENTY of opportunities to tell. Besides being left at Lori's house w/Lori's parents for 3-4 hours, she actually called 2-3 friends from pay phones while they were stopped different times, and didn't say a thing or act scared!! Her attitude also SUCKS big time. Except for in court, she always acted indignant that SHE had to lose any of her life to jail.

Well, now that I put it into words, I'm not mixed, Toni should have spent more time in too.

Mammy · 06-10-2011, 09:24 PM

I think it is commendable that Toni's parents took her to the police station after she told them what had happened. That is sure a far cry from some parents who know their kids are guilty of wrongdoing and cover for them and try to keep them from be punished. Toni's mom just died in the past year or two from cancer.

majcm · 06-10-2011, 09:53 PM

I agree about Toni's parents. They stood out, out of all the parents, as decent people. If you haven't read the books, Hope's parents brought her to Toni's house & they both told them what happened. First thing out of the Lawrence's mouth is "we have to go to police" The Rippey's, though, wanted to wait to get Hope a lawyer.

trishsixxm · 06-11-2011, 04:58 PM

What I saw on Dr.Phil was very sad but what was sadder were the comment being made on youtube. I know just like the memphis 3 they have supporters but good grief Shanda was just 12 and there were 4 girls ganging up on her. I don't know if I could of sat in front of Hope if she'd done that to my child I give Shanda's mother and sister a lot of credit I think I would of tried to strangle that witch! Thank you for answering majcm.

**RiaBrown** · 07-15-2011, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by trishsixxm

That was a tough thing to watch. How exactly did the Hope and the other girl get out so early????

I just finished reading "Little Lost Angel." I know that Toni was only charged with criminal confinement. Murder charges against her were dropped when she agreed to plead guilty to criminal confinement and be the state's key witness, testifying against the other three. She was sentenced to only 20 years, and she served 10. Got out on good behavior, I believe.

Same for Hope Rippey, only she was charged with murder, too. She only got out I think last year on good behavior. She got fifty years. I didn't think she'd be getting out until around 2017.

**wildcatgrrl** · 07-15-2011, 08:51 PM

Inmates in IN get one day off their sentence for every day of good behavior, plus additional time taken off for earning degrees, IIRC. So they got free education and out early.

**RiaBrown** · 07-16-2011, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by wildcatgrrl

Inmates in IN get one day off their sentence for every day of good behavior, plus additional time taken off for earning degrees, IIRC. So they got free education and out early.

That really sucks. So you murder an innocent child, get sentenced to 50 years, and go to prison. While in prison, you behave yourself, get your sentence reduced from 50 years to 35 years, get a degree, and end up only serving 15 years. *shakes head* I am not seeing the justice in that. Where is the justice for Shanda?

**saturnine** · 08-06-2011, 11:25 AM

There is a new documentary coming out called "Charlie's Scars"... It's about the dog training program at Indiana Women's Prison. Melinda Loveless is doing her first ever interview for this. Shanda's mother was also interviewed.

You can briefly see both of them towards the end of the trailer:

http://www.charliesscars.com/trailer1.html

stacebabe · 08-06-2011, 12:09 PM

Loveless should be froliking with razor blades alone in a room. Not dogs.

**RiaBrown** · 08-06-2011, 12:47 PM

Hope should still be in jail, IMO. I think that in some cases, they should not be given time off for good behavior. I just don't think it's right. I think the Shanda Sharer murder was heinous enough to warrant the refusal of good time.

Mammy · 08-06-2011, 03:32 PM

I think if Amanda had left Shanda alone and quit trying to get with her even after Shanda's parents had switched schools to keep her away from Amanda, this never would have happened. Amanda likes to play the victim and takes no responsibility for her part in Shanda's murder. I know that she wasn't a part of the actual murder, but she knew that Melinda was a nutcase, yet she still pursued Shanda. She is an attention whore who now looks like Chaz Bono.

**saturnine** · 08-06-2011, 06:56 PM

I'm on findadeath tinkering with some of my family's memorials when I thought of this thread. I looked up "Loveless" in the Indiana section to see what would come up and I found Melinda's crazy-ass father:

http://tinyurl.com/3nvpupc

**Finnegan** · 08-07-2011, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by saturnine

I'm on findadeath tinkering with some of my family's memorials when I thought of this thread. I looked up "Loveless" in the Indiana section to see what would come up and I found Melinda's crazy-ass father:

http://tinyurl.com/3nvpupc

whoa. look at the message left. what part did he play in this?!

Mammy · 08-07-2011, 02:20 PM

He was a pervert and a weirdo and a handy scapegoat to explain why Melinda turned out like she has, yet Melinda has two sisters that have never brutally tortured or murdered anyone. Funny how that works...

**Finnegan** · 08-09-2011, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by mammyofthree

He was a pervert and a weirdo and a handy scapegoat to explain why Melinda turned out like she has, yet Melinda has two sisters that have never brutally tortured or murdered anyone. Funny how that works...

ah, ok.
this story makes my stomach clench every time.
there are a handful of stories that my emotions can't handle and this is one of them.

Mammy · 08-09-2011, 03:28 PM

I agree with you. This is one of the most brutal murders that I have ever heard of and the details of it make me squeamish to this day. I can't imagine what that poor little girl endured and I don't see how her loved ones can go on knowing how much Shanda suffered. It really pisses me off that two of those beasts are out of prison already. They should all be serving life without parole.

Melinda's dad was a piece of shit, no doubt about it. There is speculation that he molested Melinda and he was physically and mentally abusive toward Melinda's mom. He also was a peeping Tom and behaved very inappropriately toward young cousins of Melinda. He favored Melinda over his other two daughters, calling her his baby, having her sit in his lap when she was already a teenager, sleeping in the same bed as her. Anytime he and his wife would argue, he would tell Melinda that her mom was making him leave and she didn't want to be a family anymore. He used Melinda to manipulate Margie. Melinda would become hysterical when she thought Larry was going to leave so Margie would give in and let him stay just to calm Melinda down. He also wasn't much of a fan of keeping a job and Margie was usually had to support the family on her own. He also liked to dress up in women's underwear. He definitely was a weirdo, but I don't like for him to be used as an excuse for what Melinda did. Her two sisters never killed anyone.

**pkstracy** · 08-15-2011, 05:44 PM

Sad sad story, It makes me sick how many kids think it's cool or okay to kill someone.

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