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    Poor George Jacobs.

    Actually his book was really good. I seem to recall it contained a very cringeworthy anecdote about Judy Garland, anyone remember what that was?

    PS, yeah "something stupid" had that inappropriate vibe, but that kind of added to it!
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    Yes, i remember reading that every time Judy got drunk she went to Sinatra's and even though she didnt turn him on anymore she wanted to have sex with him and she'd unzip his pants to create the "mood" she wanted.This sessions would continue until the early sixties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leevancleef View Post
    Yes, i remember reading that every time Judy got drunk she went to Sinatra's and even though she didnt turn him on anymore she wanted to have sex with him and she'd unzip his pants to create the "mood" she wanted.This sessions would continue until the early sixties.
    She musta gone to Sinatra's a lot.

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    i hear you! i guess that was only when she was NEAR to his place.
    If she really went to him EVERYTIME she got drunk, Frank would have been the busiest man of all times!
    i like Judy, but gosh, she did love her booze!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Poor George Jacobs.

    Actually his book was really good. I seem to recall it contained a very cringeworthy anecdote about Judy Garland, anyone remember what that was?

    PS, yeah "something stupid" had that inappropriate vibe, but that kind of added to it!
    Didn't george get canned for dancing with Mia?

    He kissed Frank's ass!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Don't they rent out Franks and Dolly's former homes? I know Frank built a house for Dolly by his house in Palm Springs.
    I don't know about Dolly's home but you can rent Frank's home for only $2,600.00 a night. Interested???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1karenhb View Post
    I don't know about Dolly's home but you can rent Frank's home for only $2,600.00 a night. Interested???
    Yeah pocket change...I wish!

    But it would be cool to stay at Franks house!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Yeah pocket change...I wish!

    But it would be cool to stay at Franks house!!
    Yes it would!! It was built for Frank and first wife Nancy in 1947. The furnishings are period although not original to house. It does have his original "state of the art" sound system but it's not connected up. One story mentioned was when Frank threw then-wife Ava Gardner's possessions onto the driveway after she appeared at the house in an attempt to catch him with Lana Turner. You can still see the chip in the sink where Frank threw a bottle in a rage. Wow, if those walls could talk!!! Oh, the swimming pool is piano-shaped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1karenhb View Post
    Yes it would!! It was built for Frank and first wife Nancy in 1947. The furnishings are period although not original to house. It does have his original "state of the art" sound system but it's not connected up. One story mentioned was when Frank threw then-wife Ava Gardner's possessions onto the driveway after she appeared at the house in an attempt to catch him with Lana Turner. You can still see the chip in the sink where Frank threw a bottle in a rage. Wow, if those walls could talk!!! Oh, the swimming pool is piano-shaped!
    So is this one the called "The compound?" The one JFK was supposed to stay at?

    I am thinking not because I don't think it was built until the 1960's??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    So is this one the called "The compound?" The one JFK was supposed to stay at?

    I am thinking not because I don't think it was built until the 1960's??
    I was confused about this so I did some checking. You're right, he had the famous compound built in 1957 in Rancho Mirage which is just down the road from Palm Springs. This is where he had a separate house built for Dolly next to his and had a bungalow and heliport built for JFK , who decided to stay with Bing Crosby instead . This so pissed off Frank he tore down the newly built bungalow and heliport and severed relations with the Kennedy family. He also built several other bungalows on the property. Frank sold the house in 1995 to a businessman for $4.5 million who uses the compound for business purposes and is not open to the public. In 1971 the name of the street it's located on was changed to (what else?) Frank Sinatra Way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1karenhb View Post
    I was confused about this so I did some checking. You're right, he had the famous compound built in 1957 in Rancho Mirage which is just down the road from Palm Springs. This is where he had a house built for Dolly and had a bungalow and heliport built for JFK , who decided to stay with Bing Crosby instead . This so pissed off Frank he tore down the newly built bungalow and heliport and severed relations with the Kennedy family. Frank sold the house in 1995 to a businessman for $4.5 million who uses the compound for business purposes and is not open to the public. In 1971 the name of the street it's located on was changed to (what else?) Frank Sinatra Way.
    Thanks for checking into that. I would have rather stayed at that house "the Compound." But that doesn't sound like it will happen.

    Even if it was a rental couldn't afford it! LOL

    And I do believe Dolly's old house is a rental? I read somewhere a few months back about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Didn't george get canned for dancing with Mia?

    He kissed Frank's ass!!
    yep, they were dancing together in the Cand Store , the disco of the moment by then, in Beverly Hills. Mia was there with John Phillips (Mamas and the Papas)and George said that Mia was high. She asked him to dance with her.He accepted.. bad decission!. Mia and Frank were divorcing at that time but it seems that it bothered Frank all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Didn't george get canned for dancing with Mia?

    He kissed Frank's ass!!
    yep, they were dancing together in the Candy Store , the disco of the moment by then, in Beverly Hills. Mia was there with John Phillips (Mamas and the Papas)and George said that Mia was high. She asked him to dance with her.He accepted.. bad decission!. Mia and Frank were divorcing at that time but it seems that it bothered Frank all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leevancleef View Post
    yep, they were dancing together in the Candy Store , the disco of the moment by then, in Beverly Hills. Mia was there with John Phillips (Mamas and the Papas)and George said that Mia was high. She asked him to dance with her.He accepted.. bad decission!. Mia and Frank were divorcing at that time but it seems that it bothered Frank all the way.

    And to his dying day Frank never forgave poor George!

    Frank didn't even have the ball's to tell him. He told George to call his lawyer!

    Frank was one complex person thats for sure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fool Moon View Post
    IIRC, Frank and Nancy had a little history before Ron was in the picture.

    It was said that Nancy gave the best head in Hollywood.
    I've heard this before. And it just makes me shudder! OMG what an image that is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scout987a View Post
    I've heard this before. And it just makes me shudder! OMG what an image that is!

    I hear Judy Garland was good in bed as well!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    I hear Judy Garland was good in bed as well!!
    yep, as i posted in the page 2 of this thread she loved to "do" Ol FRANK.

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    Anyone ever seen this?

    I remember this from an elvis bio on tv that showed elvis and frank singing witchcraft/love me tender..."Man that was pretty"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAHDq...eature=related

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    Im really fascinating by how obsessed Frank was for Ava Gardner.
    i mean, he could have any woman he wanted, he slept with beauties like Lauren Bacall, Marilyn Monroe, Angie Dickinson,Lana Turner.... but it was only Ava for him...for the rest of his life.
    ive found this information about how Frank felt when Ava left him for good:

    "He was stricken, desperate, sleepless, inconsolable...In Van Heusen's apartment he would sit up all night drinking until he passed out from exhaustion. He couldnt rid himself of her for a minute. She went round and round in his head til he thoght it would explode.He would sit, staring at her photograph, then in an angry outburst tear it to shreds, then put the pieces together again...... One night he found himself alone in the apartment in NYC , Van Heusen was out,. Lonely, full of booze and pills , strolling about the halls in his pajamas he wandered into the kitchen and took a knife and he run the blade across each of his thin writst. Van Heusen came home and found him dazed and his arms and pj's all red.
    Sinatra just said: Jimmy, i cant stop the bleeding"

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    Quote Originally Posted by leevancleef View Post
    Im really fascinating by how obsessed Frank was for Ava Gardner.
    i mean, he could have any woman he wanted, he slept with beauties like Lauren Bacall, Marilyn Monroe, Angie Dickinson,Lana Turner.... but it was only Ava for him...for the rest of his life.
    ive found this information about how Frank felt when Ava left him for good:

    "He was stricken, desperate, sleepless, inconsolable...In Van Heusen's apartment he would sit up all night drinking until he passed out from exhaustion. He couldnt rid himself of her for a minute. She went round and round in his head til he thoght it would explode.He would sit, staring at her photograph, then in an angry outburst tear it to shreds, then put the pieces together again...... One night he found himself alone in the apartment in NYC , Van Heusen was out,. Lonely, full of booze and pills , strolling about the halls in his pajamas he wandered into the kitchen and took a knife and he run the blade across each of his thin writst. Van Heusen came home and found him dazed and his arms and pj's all red.
    Sinatra just said: Jimmy, i cant stop the bleeding"
    Some women just get under your skin for no obvious reason to anyone else. It could be an attitude, perspective or whatever. It is very rarely looks I have found. And yes it screws a guy up.... a lot.
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    One day Frank Sinatra walked into his office at the Sands Hotel in Las Vegas and started screaming and swearing, ripped the telephone out of the wall, broke some windows and set the office on fire.

    The cause of his annoyance? The color of the telephone clashed with the new orange sweater which he was wearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    One day Frank Sinatra walked into his office at the Sands Hotel in Las Vegas and started screaming and swearing, ripped the telephone out of the wall, broke some windows and set the office on fire.

    The cause of his annoyance? The color of the telephone clashed with the new orange sweater which he was wearing.

    You have GOT to be kidding!
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    what a spoilt asshole.

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    Frank

    I think Frank was a great singer... I love his CD's.....
    I also enjoyed some of the movies he was in.

    However, I think in his personal life.. he was a bully, conceited, and I wouldn't doubt his hands are dirty in a few deaths.

    RIP Frank... you were still cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheBoss View Post
    You have GOT to be kidding!
    Oh no, Frank had serious issues!! He would throw food at waiters if it wasn't cooked correctly!

    I hear he was a neat freak. Used to wash his hands constantly and change his underwear numerous times a day!

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    the twins i wont be renting out way toooo out dated for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Oh no, Frank had serious issues!! He would throw food at waiters if it wasn't cooked correctly!

    I hear he was a neat freak. Used to wash his hands constantly and change his underwear numerous times a day!
    And take 4 showers a day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leevancleef View Post
    And take 4 showers a day!!

    Yep that also!!

    Also he was legendary for not wanting to rehearse in his movies or the television specials he did in the 50's!

    He had a stand in to do the rehearsals for the other actors and would come in at the last minute and do the shot!

    Which is a reason his two series in the 50's failed on TV!! But made Frank a TON of money!!

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    Great site. I wonder if Frank was buried in his toupee? I always wonder about people who wear toupees and what happens when they are buried. Do they live the lie in the afterlife as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area Man View Post
    Great site. I wonder if Frank was buried in his toupee? I always wonder about people who wear toupees and what happens when they are buried. Do they live the lie in the afterlife as well?
    Thats a funny thought, AreaMan, i dont know how he was dressed for the burial and i dont know if was an open casket funeral, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area Man View Post
    Great site. I wonder if Frank was buried in his toupee? I always wonder about people who wear toupees and what happens when they are buried. Do they live the lie in the afterlife as well?
    I would not doubt it, he was buried with everything else!!

    Following Frank Sinatra's death in 1999, his daughter (Nancy Sinatra) spent six days preparing his coffin for the funeral. Among the items packed in his casket? Tootsie Rolls, Wild Cherry Life Savers, chewing gum, and cotton balls soaked in cologne.

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    The Nice side of Frank

    Frank Sinatra, famed for his violent temper, once had a heli-pad installed on his Palm Springs property for a much-anticipated presidential visit. When JFK chose to stay with Bing Crosby instead, Sinatra, in a fury, attacked the helipad with a sledge hammer.

    When Peter Lawford declined an invitation to visit, Sinatra shredded some of his clothes (which Lawford had left in the guest room closet) and threw them in his pool. On yet another occasion he threw a woman through a plate glass window, nearly severing her arm.

    Sinatra also had a spat with casino manager Carl Cohen. When the crooner doused him with hot coffee, Cohen slugged him in the face, knocking out his two front teeth. This time Sinatra learned a lesson of sorts: "Never," he later told Kirk Douglas, "fight a Jew in the desert."

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    He sounds like a wonderful guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area Man View Post
    He sounds like a wonderful guy!
    "Jackie Mason joked about Frank Sinatra, believing Frank had a 'sickness' about having to conquer women. He joked that Sinatra couldn't continue on that way - then added self-deprecatingly 'but how long can I go on this way?' Mason's gags were benign, mostly playing on his own jealousy of Sinatra's good fortune.

    "One night Jackie was playing at a popular hotel that happened to have a special guest in residence: Sinatra. Sinatra came in to see the show and heckle. Since Sinatra had recently married Mia Farrow and was on his honeymoon, Jackie logically asked Frank, 'What's the matter, you're not busy upstairs?'

    "On November 6, 1966, three bullets crashed into Jackie's hotel room hitting the bed where he had been sitting. On February 13, 1967 a thug warned Jackie to stop the Sinatra jokes. Then he beat him up, breaking his nose."

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    lee servers' books on ava and robert mitchum are the only source i can quote on the subject,but lee says ava enjoyed showers of the golden kind,i will leave it to you to imagine the scene, i guess ava on top is about right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnitelamp View Post
    lee servers' books on ava and robert mitchum are the only source i can quote on the subject,but lee says ava enjoyed showers of the golden kind,i will leave it to you to imagine the scene, i guess ava on top is about right.
    Better golden showers than scat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by midnitelamp View Post
    lee servers' books on ava and robert mitchum are the only source i can quote on the subject,but lee says ava enjoyed showers of the golden kind,i will leave it to you to imagine the scene, i guess ava on top is about right.

    I have never heard that before....Yuck!!!!

    Ava was a little strange...but golden showers!!!!!

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    When Frank Sinatra married Mia Farrow in 1966, his version of "Strangers in the Night" was playing in the background. And Mia may have heard the song again later on; according to one-time girlfriend Ronnie Cowan, Sinatra enjoyed making love while listening to his own records!!

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    Frank Sinatra

    Great thread! I like reading all the stories about Sinatra,to be sure he was a "character".Love him or hate him he lived an intresting life, I liked the parts he played in his later movies,seems like he played himself (Tony Rome,The Detective,Assualt on a Queen ) He always made it look easy. I guess by then he had the "juice" to do anything he wanted.I look back and think about those years,"the 60,s",even though there was so much "crap" going on on in this country, they were good years for me and I miss them.great links on "The Compound"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMysterian View Post
    Great thread! I like reading all the stories about Sinatra,to be sure he was a "character".Love him or hate him he lived an intresting life, I liked the parts he played in his later movies,seems like he played himself (Tony Rome,The Detective,Assualt on a Queen ) He always made it look easy. I guess by then he had the "juice" to do anything he wanted.I look back and think about those years,"the 60,s",even though there was so much "crap" going on on in this country, they were good years for me and I miss them.great links on "The Compound"!
    I read in Kitty Kellys book he was not invited to Reagans inaguration and went away and barreled right past thru the secret service and they were to afraid to stop him so they let him thru!!!

    WOW!!!

    Talk about respect!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    I also heard Frank was "hung like a horse."
    Well that would explain it for me, otherwise I never understood the fascination with him, singer, actor, whatever, I just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panda View Post
    Well that would explain it for me, otherwise I never understood the fascination with him, singer, actor, whatever, I just don't get it.
    Frank is one of those Like him or hate him celebrities!!

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    Are there any pics around of "Ol' Blue Eyes" in the box?
    "Dance like no one is watching. Sing like no one is listening. Love like you've never been hurt and live like it's Heaven on Earth" - Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Trout View Post
    Are there any pics around of "Ol' Blue Eyes" in the box?
    I don't think so!!! I have never heard of any!

    Someone did get some photos of Sammy Davis Jr in the box. Frank sent over his henchmen to tell the photographer to give them up or face a beating, The photographer turned over the photos!!

    Frank was such a NIce guy!!!

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    In this article.. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle472889.ece
    It does list what Frank was buried with...

    As well as the lighter, other gifts placed in Sinatra’s casket at the interment in Palm Springs, California, included a bottle of his favourite Jack Daniel’s whiskey, a packet of Tootsie Rolls, the sweets made in his home town of Hoboken, New Jersey, and a ring inscribed with the word “Dreams” left by Mia Farrow, the actress and third wife of the singer.
    However, it is the lighter, included by Sinatra’s stepson Bobby, which has the most controversial connotations. It is now thought to be linked to the discovery of a gold lighter inscribed as a gift from Sinatra at the home of Lucky Luciano, a mafia don, in the 1970s. The incident blackened the singer’s name by suggesting he was close to the mob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magblax View Post
    In this article.. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle472889.ece
    It does list what Frank was buried with...

    As well as the lighter, other gifts placed in Sinatra’s casket at the interment in Palm Springs, California, included a bottle of his favourite Jack Daniel’s whiskey, a packet of Tootsie Rolls, the sweets made in his home town of Hoboken, New Jersey, and a ring inscribed with the word “Dreams” left by Mia Farrow, the actress and third wife of the singer.
    However, it is the lighter, included by Sinatra’s stepson Bobby, which has the most controversial connotations. It is now thought to be linked to the discovery of a gold lighter inscribed as a gift from Sinatra at the home of Lucky Luciano, a mafia don, in the 1970s. The incident blackened the singer’s name by suggesting he was close to the mob.
    Mag,

    He was close to the mob!! At one point in the 60's though the mob were going to rub out ole Frank when Kennedy got into office and His brother put pressure on the mob!

    Something Frank told them wouldn't happen!

    Taped recordings of phone conversations of certain mob members proved that! But the mob knew Frank was still a powerful figure in Hollywood and Vegas and decided not to kill him, but they did discuss it at one point!!

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    FRANK SINATRA quotes, Playboy Magazine, Feb. 1962

    "If you don't know the guy on the other side of the world, love him anyway because he's just like you. He has the same dreams, the same hopes and fears. It's one world, pal. We're all neighbors."

    "I'm for anything that gets you through the night, be it prayer, tranquilizers, or a bottle of Jack Daniels. But to me religion is a deeply personal thing in which man and God go it alone together, without the witch doctor in the middle."

    "There are things about organized religion which I resent. Christ is revered as the Prince of Peace, but more blood has been shed in His name than any other figure in history. You show me one step forward in the name of religion and I'll show you a hundred retrogressions. Remember, they were men of God who destroyed the educational treasures at Alexandria, who perpetrated the Inquisition in Spain, who burned the witches at Salem. Over 25,000 organized religions flourish on this planet, but the followers of each think all the others are miserably misguided and probably evil as well."

    Truth be told Frank never did an interview for Playboy. It was all ghostwritten. Alot of people don't know that!

    Frank signed off on the interview for publication but was never interviewed! I think it was his press agent or someone had Playboy write up a list of questions and he replied the way he thought Frank would answer!!

    Those quotes still float around as being said by Frank to this day!

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    Hmmmm, interesting, so that ghostwriter wrote what he thought Frank would say, good thing it was like something Frank would say, or else he would really be a "ghost" writer.

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