I wonder if she was just bummed out about valentine's day?
I agree that her daughter a drama queen but sheesh so were BOTH her parents. You'd think the hangers on could control an outburst by now.
I wonder if she was just bummed out about valentine's day?
I agree that her daughter a drama queen but sheesh so were BOTH her parents. You'd think the hangers on could control an outburst by now.
I have an amazing family on my dad's side.
Originally Posted by atomicbettie
You mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0isvS19AGs
I wonder if she was just bummed out about valentine's day?
I agree that her daughter a drama queen but sheesh so were BOTH her parents. You'd think the hangers on could control an outburst by now.
lol, wordi wonder if she was just bummed out about valentine's day?
I agree that her daughter a drama queen but sheesh so were both her parents. You'd think the hangers on could control an outburst by now.
Here's the doody bubble! http://www.medicinefilms.com/pill/191180
THIS IS NOT THE TUB WHITNEY DIED IN, well it could be. This is a tub at the Beverly Hilton. I've seen the photos of this hotel inside and out and don't find it to be anything spectacular, it's no Dive but certainly not 5 star either. I prefer Westin myself but this hotel is all about location. The photo is from Tripadvisor taken by a guest at the Beverly Hilton.
Holy mother of God. I totally forgot about the doody bubble!!! Honestly, they were more perfect together than any of us thought.
Free your Mind....one of my favorite songs, I wish everyone would listen to it
For starters!
Black love!
It's all coming back to me now, watching that show. My biggest thing I remember was her being an ass to her fans, and I remember wishing I could unsee that, because she always seemed so classy.
This just made my day.
Yeah I was her age when my dad had his stroke. I had to get on with my life. That's a cry for attention, especially that fast. Shock comes first, not "oh lord get me my smelling salts!"
Geraldo would know.
The big difference is, the majority of us that can say, "We've been through it!" -- we're not in the public eye. We're not children of one of the most beloved singers, and one of the most hated men of all time. Not one of us can expect to know how her daughter feels. She's got a huge burden coming. She's surely going to inherit all of Whitney's estate, which will only grow larger. And she's got a leech for a father who is always a few towns away from me in court for back child support. I don't think it's fair to pick on how she's reacting. I just don't.And as an only child, who else does she have that feels exactly as she does about Whitney? Nobody. I am my father's only child, and he's beloved by the community, and I'm grateful for that, but nobody feels about him like his only child does. I think it's time we show her some sympathy.
Renowned Death Hag
who called it about who sings whitney at the grammy's?!
We all feel a little bit differently, its no big deal. Like I said, shes an adult, and has shown her own issues already. I feel bad for anyone who loses their parent (no matter what their age) but she gets no sympathy from me because she is the adult daughter of a celeb. Bobbi is NOT an only child. As I stated before, she has plenty of half siblings.
I believe that she will delve deeper into her own addictions on an immediate basis.
I think her coping mechanisms were shown to her by her parents, and she's still so young to lose her mother. That's all. I have a half sibling, but mine was 7 years old when our mother died. I doubt all of Bobby's kids were as close to Whitney as she was. All I'm saying is I don't want to kick her when she's down. We all react different, and it's HARD being an only. Half's on the other side aren't as much comfort when the full has passed. It's nobody's fault, it just is.
Renowned Death Hag
I dunno...I guess we all grieve in our own ways. Either way, losing a parent young sucks. I was 24 when my mom died. Certainly not as young as some, but on the flip side, my husband's grandmother is in her '70s and she just lost her 90-something-year-old mother a year or so ago. So in that respect, I was pretty young, and I had to spend most of the viewing and funeral doped up on clonopin, even though it was expected. But I'm also an only child, so that's likely a factor...I can't even imagine how I'd deal with something happening to my father now. At any rate, I kinda feel like it's unfair to judge someone's grieving process without being in their heads. I feel for her.
I was an only child until I was 16 years old. I have a full brother who is 16 years my junior. When my Mom died he took it harder because he was younger I suppose. But as far as judging others grieving process, I graduated with a mortuary degree, so I know a little bit more about the girieving process than the average bear. That being said, its all opinions here and the liklihood of Bobbi coming here and seeing our comments and caring is pretty low. But working in the death biz for many years and seeing all kinds of deaths, grieving, children without parents, etc my opinion is she is acting way too dramatic and will continue to drug. As I said, she has siblings. She has family. She has a grandmother (Whitneys mom) and much support. It will be interesting to see how she uses it.
Oh, I never really thought of drugs and the phrase "hooked up" going together. Maybe "hooked on". Hooked up as in they had sex, had a physical relationship.
Renowned Death Hag
It totally blows to lose your mother. I lost mine almost 10 years ago to "acute ethanol poisining" which is basically saying she drank herself to death. She was an alcoholic most of her life. My father died when I was 2 months from my 18th birthday of lung cancer. Being an orphan bites.
Everyone must die but not everyone has lived
I think he meant like she hanged herself. Or hooked herself. heehee
So they're saying she might've drowned in the tub after taking a combination of prescription pills? What a terrible way to die. Such a stupid mistake. You're knocked out and don't know that you're dying. I can't wait to see the autopsy results.
I'm so sad thinking about her head going under & her feet up in the air. I kinda wish I hadn't read so soon.
Renowned Death Hag
if it helps, I doubt her feet went up in the air.
I read it. The hairstylist said it I think? Let me look around a little.
Renowned Death Hag
I know...the visual is haunting. I wonder how the whole being in the tub thing went down...The hairdresser said after an hour they checked on her?
Renowned Death Hag
really?! holy chit.
while looking, I found this: http://www.wikifeet.com/Whitney_Houston
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/12/whitne...ub-underwater/
Whitney Houston was found in the bathtub of a Beverly Hills hotel yesterday ... with her face underwater ... people close to Whitney tell TMZ.
According to our sources, her stylist, hairdresser and two bodyguards were among the people in the room at the time. We're told they became worried about Whitney because she had been in the bathroom for over an hour and it was time to start getting ready for the Clive Davis party.
Our sources say they began to knock on the door and there was no answer. We're told the hairdresser, who is female, went in to check on Whitney. She immediately screamed and, according to our sources, one of the bodyguards came running in and pulled her out of the tub.
We're told Whitney's face was below the water and her legs were up ... like she had slid down the back of the tub.
According to our sources, her body was very cold and the bodyguard attempted CPR. That's when hotel security was called.
Paramedics arrived shortly thereafter, but Whitney was pronounced dead at 3:55 PM.
Egads!!
Renowned Death Hag
wow that's crazy. I would think you'd just slump down in the water. feet sticking up seems cartoonish. my bad.
I know, right?
Thanks for trying to make me feel better anyway
She was pretty tall...so maybe her feet were on top of the tub...maybe if they'd been at the foot of the tub she'd have stayed above water? Nah I guess not bc her knees would have bended.
I don't understand, if she died before she got water in her lungs, how did the water get there? I thought when you died you quit breathing. What am I missing here?
Renowned Death Hag
Well if she passed out or was under heavy sedation (i.e. xanax and alcohol combined), she could have slipped under the water and drowned.
Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.
So if RaRas post is right shed been dead at least an hour before this hairdresser walked in. Leave it to the hairdresser to find the body
Renowned Death Hag
I wonder if she hadnt drowned could she have been saved... All the questions...
And the foot site. Lmao. Wtf?
I have heard some conflicting stories coming in. I heard on CNN tonight that the BH PD has placed a "hold" on the autopsy results until they finish their investigation. They claim this is quite common. I dunno, as long as I have worked in death investigation, I never heard of them placing a hold on autopsy results.... if its a homicide, they will sometimes say, go ahead and say its a homicide, but dont release the mechanism (knife wounds, gun shot, strangulation, etc) until we catch our bad guy. If the Medical Examiner waited on autopsy results to be released until the every police department finished their investigation, our jobs would NEVER end!
Also interesting to note is that they are saying she had water in her lungs, but stopped short of saying she drowned. You can only get water in your lungs if you are breathing. She could have been unconcious when she entered the water.... but if you die before the water, no water in lungs. I read she was facedown in the water as well.
The Medical Examiner and the police already know her manner and cause of death believe me. They are holding onto it for some reason.
If all that has been said is correct, her death will be classified as accidental, with drowing as the cause secondary to acute intoxication from (whatever drugs are in her system)
Renowned Death Hag
It's confusing. Did she take xanax right before the tub, got in & fell unconscious? You have to take quite a bit of xanax to be out cold. I take it since heart surgery & man I might have high tolerance but to be in a semi coma? It's a lot.
Renowned Death Hag
Ah, yes. So it's possible she could have been saved if someone had checked on her before an hour passed.
Yes, absolutely if drowning is indeed what she died of (and it sounds like it will be)
Renowned Death Hag
I would assume some water may get into the lungs through the nostrils if her head was under water after death (and depending how long her head was submerged). It's not clear yet if the amount of water in her lungs could have caused the drowning. Any experts here can chime in if my theory is right.
Cindy
pics and stories http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ion-drugs.html
I notice she often wore foundation that was much too light
She is broke it was on the news earlier today that someone paid he back house payments for her and nthat Bobby and her went thru 100 million dollars on drugs.This was way before she drowned. They thinkn she drowned. There was ni illegal drugs in the room. YA know coke fucks with your heart. It damages it and people can die from coke abuse years after they stopped using. RIP WH. I l;iked her voice and her acting but she went to hell in a flash with the help of Brown
She looked terribly out of shape in those last photos taken the night before she died
The link that Ghostyhead provided had a lot of information in it. It stated there were bottles of Valium, ativan and xanax. All THREE of those are benzos and I cannot believe she would take them all - Good GOD
Her pics when she was on top of her game, her skin was much darker, in the later pics, her skin is lighter, seems uneven and has a lot of scarring (acne?) or perhaps picking at her skin like the meth folks do. Sad
I was thinking the same thing LLC, I would have to take alot of my xanax to knock me totally out. I know I have a high tolerance to it but still I think I'd have to take half a bottle to be that out of it.
Renowned Death Hag
Great link! Thanks.
Renowned Death Hag
Yep. Me too. She had to have mixed a lot of different drugs. Although they said Mike Starr from one xanax & one beer. Wouldn't work for me...Just sayin'
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I remember some reports early on in both Whitney's and Brown's careers.
It was rumored that prior to her marriage, Whitney had been in love with a young woman named Robin who worked for her.
About the same time, Liz Smith, gossip columnist reported a blind item about a popular black singer who had been diagnosed as being bipolar and was self-medicating with drugs but his family would not get him into treatment because of fears of how it would affect his career if it was known. Bobby Brown's behavior was already becoming erratic and people felt she was talking about him. Apparently, Brown did too and he angrily denied it in an interview.
It was soon after that these two got married. I remember magazines that were usually gushy about celeb marriages had a "hmmmm" attitude about this union. There was skepticism that the marriage was a front to protect both their careers.
Of couse, as their antics and Whitney's drug abuse became apparent, a lot of this older stuff dropped by the wayside as the media focused on their present issues.
Does anyone remember hearing about this stuff? If it is true, it would explain a lot. You can get into destructive behavior if you feel forced into denying a basic part of yourself and an unmedicated bipolar can get into a lot of trouble.
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