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    Suzanne Somers says: "Chemo Bad, Face Lift Good."

    NEW YORK - Suzanne Somers is at it again.
    Less than a year after the former sitcom actress frustrated mainstream doctors (and cheered some fans) by touting bioidentical hormones on "The Oprah Winfrey Show," she's back with a new book. This one's on an even more emotional topic: Cancer treatment. Specifically, she argues against what she sees as the vast and often pointless use of chemotherapy.
    Somers, who has rejected chemo herself, seems to relish the fight.
    "Cancer's an epidemic," said the 63-year-old actress in an interview in a Manhattan hotel a day before Tuesday's release of "Knockout," her 19th book. "And yet we keep going back to the same old pot because it's all we've got. Well, this is a book about options.
    "I'm 'us,"' Somers adds. "I'm not them. I've been on the other side of the bed. And it's powerful to have information."
    The American Cancer Society is concerned.
    "I am very afraid that people are going to listen to her message and follow what she says and be harmed by it," says Dr. Otis Brawley, the organization's chief medical officer. "We use current treatments because they've been proven to prolong life. They've gone through a logical, scientific method of evaluation. I don't know if Suzanne Somers even knows there IS a logical, scientific method."
    More broadly, Brawley is concerned that in the United States, celebrities or sports stars feel they can use their fame to dispense medical advice. "There's a tendency to oversimplify medical messages," he says. "Well, oversimplification can kill."
    Though she may be one of the most visible, Somers is hardly the only celebrity who's advocated alternative treatments recently.
    Radio host Don Imus says he's eating habanero peppers and taking Japanese soy supplements to help treat his prostate cancer. The late Farrah Fawcett underwent a mix of traditional and alternative treatments, and made a poignant plea for supporting alternative methods in her film, "Farrah's Story." Actress Jenny McCarthy advocates a special dietary regime, supplements, metal detox and delayed vaccines to treat autism.
    The issue goes beyond alternative medicine. Tennis great John McEnroe has been advocating widespread screening for prostate cancer, which Brawley and others say is not necessarily wise.
    And comedian Bill Maher has made no secret of his disdain for flu shots, questioning why you'd let someone "stick a disease into your arm." He also said pregnant women shouldn't get the new swine flu vaccine, contradicting U.S. health officials who say pregnant women especially need it because they are at high risk for flu complications.
    While it's hard to imagine a comedian like Maher influencing public health decisions, there have been cases where celebrities have been seen to influence the public, says Barron Lerner, a doctor who's looked at celebrity illnesses through history.
    He recalls how some desperately ill cancer patients took their cues from Steve McQueen, the rugged actor who turned to unorthodox cancer treatment in 1980. When conventional medicine failed to halt his mesothelioma, a cancer of the lung lining, McQueen travelled to Mexico, where he was treated with everything from coffee enemas to laetrile, the now debunked remedy involving apricot pits.
    "It's difficult to quantify his influence, but there was a lot of traffic to Mexico of end-stage cancer patients after his death," says Lerner, author of "When Illness Goes Public."
    Although his alternative treatments didn't work, the actor, who embodied a sense of rebellion and individualism, gave voice to an emerging feeling that mainstream medicine might not be enough, Lerner says.
    Fast forward to the 21st century, where Somers, who played the ditzy blond in TV's "Three's Company," has written a series of books making that point. In "Ageless," she argued that doctors don't understand women's bodies, especially those going through menopause.
    With so-called "bioidentical" hormones - compounds that are custom-mixed by special pharmacies - Somers argued that women can restore youthfulness and vitality, energy and vigour, not to mention their sex drive.
    The problem, for many doctors: These custom-compounded products are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
    Somers, whose hormone regimen involves creams, injections and some 60 supplements daily, got a huge boost earlier this year from Oprah Winfrey. "Many people write Suzanne off as a quackadoo," Winfrey said when Somers appeared on her show. "But she just might be a pioneer."
    Yet Winfrey's tacit support of Somers gave her some of the worst press of her career. "Crazy Talk," Newsweek headlined an article on the talk show host earlier this year. Another headline, on Salon.com: "Oprah's Bad Medicine."
    Winfrey responded in a statement that her viewers know that "the medical information presented on the show is just that - information - not an endorsement or prescription." But many doctors feel Winfrey has more of a responsibility to her viewers.
    "Oprah, how could you? That's all I can say," says Dr. Nanette Santoro, a hormone specialist at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York.
    Somers is now hoping for a return invitation to Winfrey's hugely influential stage to discuss her cancer book. Her theories on chemotherapy did get one bit of attention she could have done without, though: The actress had to apologize recently when her offhand comment that chemo had likely killed actor Patrick Swayze, rather than his pancreatic cancer, made tab
    "I shouldn't have said anything," Somers says now. "I apologized to his family. But she adds: "We all know that chemotherapy does nothing for pancreatic cancer."
    In fact, Somers does view chemotherapy as effective for some cancers, but not for the most common, including lung and breast cancer. Diagnosed with breast cancer a decade ago, she had a lumpectomy and radiation, but declined chemotherapy, as she did more recently when briefly misdiagnosed with pervasive cancer.
    One criticism sure to come up with Somers' cancer book is its reliance on several doctors who have controversial histories, including Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski in Houston, who has devised his own alternative cancer treatments and has had protracted legal battles with the FDA.
    But Somers defends him passionately, as she does the other doctors interviewed in her book. As for herself, she says, she is at ease with her role as celebrity health guru.
    "Celebrities are easy to pick on," Somers says. "But I don't have an agenda. I'm just a passionate lay person. And I'm using my celebrity to do something good for people."





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    stinkythejokedog Guest
    I wonder how many people read her book and delayed traditional treatment and tried the bullshit she recommended and missed the critical period to for real therapies and died...it's always best to take medical advice from a loudmouth actress who has AA degree from community college

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    Andy Kaufman tried some alternative treatment

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    If you are going to follow medical advice from Suzanne Somers then maybe you should die.
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    I'd be interested to see what she has to say. I know myself I would try everything before resorting to chemo or disfiguring myself. Personally I believe cancer is an illness based on supressed rage. I won't get it cuz I tend to let it all hang out (usually).
    She is a bit of a snake oil salesman for sure. Her whole diet revolution "Somercizing" was just a rip-off and rehash of the 80's Fit For Life books but hers include meat where FFL is vegan (without ever saying so).
    Her incredible ego is discomforting because it tends to make her shoot her mouth off without thinking. And then there's the Svengali husband...
    One thing I'm not clear on is whether she did have a breast removed as a result of cancer. If she's still got it then that's saying something.
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    And comedian Bill Maher has made no secret of his disdain for flu shots, questioning why you'd let someone "stick a disease into your arm." He also said pregnant women shouldn't get the new swine flu vaccine, contradicting U.S. health officials who say pregnant women especially need it because they are at high risk for flu complications.
    I've been wondering about the safety of that too. Even though, I do believe in getting vaccinated. What would be the long-term affect on the unborn child?

    As for her, I don't believe anyone should tell anybody not to seek a certain treatment. Chemotherapy does save lives. It should be up to the individual. I remember something about Farrah Fawcett and how she didn't want to receive the full amount of treatment because she didn't want to damage her hair. Are you freakin kidding me! Her hair has looked like shit for years and you're going to risk your life because your hair is more important?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stinkythejokedog View Post
    I wonder how many people read her book and delayed traditional treatment and tried the bullshit she recommended and missed the critical period to for real therapies and died...it's always best to take medical advice from a loudmouth actress who has AA degree from community college
    Don't listen to those people who went to medical school for 8+ years, and are trying to find a cure for this fucking ugly disease. Listen to me! I'm famous!

    Quote Originally Posted by ichabodius View Post
    If you are going to follow medical advice from Suzanne Somers then maybe you should die.
    Should die? Hell, Ich, they will die without proper medical treatment. But that's ok, because if she could sell thighmasters to amputees, then she must know what she's talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratgrrl View Post
    I've been wondering about the safety of that too. Even though, I do believe in getting vaccinated. What would be the long-term affect on the unborn child?

    As for her, I don't believe anyone should tell anybody not to seek a certain treatment. Chemotherapy does save lives. It should be up to the individual. I remember something about Farrah Fawcett and how she didn't want to receive the full amount of treatment because she didn't want to damage her hair. Are you freakin kidding me! Her hair has looked like shit for years and you're going to risk your life because your hair is more important?

    I guess we all have our vanities and despite her later rat's nest her hair was a big part of who she was. I'd have a problem with it myself. It was vanity as well that made Somers pursue alternate treatment. She didn't want her breast cut off.

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    I shaved my head once just for the hell of it.

    SS is enough to induce projectile vomiting.

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    sheri Guest
    Suzanne Somers needs to shutup just like Jenny Mccarthy and the others whom went on about vaccinations causing their kids to be autistic. Nice try, I don't buy the bs for one iota.

    These celebs don't know a thing. While I am all for alternative/hollistic forms of treatment, it needs to be done in a balanced way just like it does with traditional medicine. Traditional is not the 100% be all answer cure for every damn thing. Do the research for yourselves and stop following what these airheaded know nothing celebs are spouting.

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    Sam Guest
    She's an IDIOT!
    I doubt she's ever even had cancer, otherwise her ass would be dead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Connor View Post
    I guess we all have our vanities and despite her later rat's nest her hair was a big part of who she was. I'd have a problem with it myself. It was vanity as well that made Somers pursue alternate treatment. She didn't want her breast cut off.
    But, I doubt anyone would want to lose their hair... Especially women who by society's standards of beauty should have hair. Once treated it can grow back. That's hardly worth your life over.

    I am surprised by the attitude she has towards breast cancer. Breast augmentation is covered under most, if not all, health insurance companies if due to a mastectomy. Not that she couldn't afford the surgery anyway.

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    The real question is why do people care about the opinions of actors?

    They read lines in front of a camera. Nothing more.

    Go get a medical degree and maybe I'll listen a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    She's an IDIOT!
    I doubt she's ever even had cancer, otherwise her ass would be dead!

    She had breast cancer. I won't write her off as an idiot because it's not like modern medecine has progressed far beyond leeches and voodoo anyway. We still know almost nothing about cancer. I'm glad different viewpoints are being offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheri View Post
    Suzanne Somers needs to shutup just like Jenny Mccarthy and the others whom went on about vaccinations causing their kids to be autistic. Nice try, I don't buy the bs for one iota.

    These celebs don't know a thing. While I am all for alternative/hollistic forms of treatment, it needs to be done in a balanced way just like it does with traditional medicine. Traditional is not the 100% be all answer cure for every damn thing. Do the research for yourselves and stop following what these airheaded know nothing celebs are spouting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelliebean View Post
    The real question is why do people care about the opinions of actors?

    They read lines in front of a camera. Nothing more.

    Go get a medical degree and maybe I'll listen a bit.
    = Same here.

    If Suzanne wants to go get a medical degree from a decent school like my doctor did, then I'll listen to her. Otherwise, she sounds kinda nutty doling out medical advice without one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Connor View Post
    I'd be interested to see what she has to say. I know myself I would try everything before resorting to chemo or disfiguring myself. Personally I believe cancer is an illness based on supressed rage. I won't get it cuz I tend to let it all hang out (usually).
    She is a bit of a snake oil salesman for sure. Her whole diet revolution "Somercizing" was just a rip-off and rehash of the 80's Fit For Life books but hers include meat where FFL is vegan (without ever saying so).
    Her incredible ego is discomforting because it tends to make her shoot her mouth off without thinking. And then there's the Svengali husband...
    One thing I'm not clear on is whether she did have a breast removed as a result of cancer. If she's still got it then that's saying something.
    That is an interesting theory about cancer being supressed rage. There could be something to that, but how about infants with the diesase? Not arguing, just wondering your theory....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichabodius View Post
    If you are going to follow medical advice from Suzanne Somers then maybe you should die.
    Quote Originally Posted by KELT View Post
    " SUZANNE SOMERS.......now that's a name I TRUST ! "

    Quote Originally Posted by sablegsd View Post
    SS is enough to induce projectile vomiting.


    That is everything I had to say on this subject (and much better put too).

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    Bottom line for me..Do what's best for you! Who cares what Suzanne Somers says..that's all based on her experience! As far as Oprah..she just needs to STFU!

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    My son has squamous cell cancer, with spots near his lymph nodes. I can damn guarantee you we are going with the chemo, Suzanne Somers can suck it Anyone who would take an actress' word for a medical condition (*especially* Suzanne Somers, nuff said) would be a fool IMHO....

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    Geez..is this bubblehead still yabbering? She seriously needs to sit down and shut the hell up. Last time I looked, playing the co-lead on a ditzy sitcom for one season some thirty years ago does not make one the authority on well, anything. Wasn't there even some debate that this broad even had breast cancer?
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    She did actually have chemotherapy for breast cancer but it made her so sick she started to research other methods. I think the concept that she should have a medical degree is a little contrary to what she's saying. She is disputing modern medicine. Obviously these ideas didn't just pop in her head and she probably consulted with many types oh people in healing professions.
    I'm not saying she's right or wrong but to be dismissed because she's an actress seems odd to me and makes me wonder if her critics can diferentiate from fact and fiction. She played a ditzy blonde; that doesn't necessarily make her one.

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    Oh, for goodness sake. She's an "actress" and not a medical doctor. Just because she had breast cancer doesn't make her an expert for everyone who's had breast cancer or any other cancers. She only got her books published because she's famous--nothing more. Sometimes I wish these actors and actresses would just stick to acting and not be a representative of the entire human race. It just feeds their ego and gives them something to do during their down times when they don't have an acting gig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbrown View Post
    Oh, for goodness sake. She's an "actress" and not a medical doctor. Just because she had breast cancer doesn't make her an expert for everyone who's had breast cancer or any other cancers. She only got her books published because she's famous--nothing more. Sometimes I wish these actors and actresses would just stick to acting and not be a representative of the entire human race. It just feeds their ego and gives them something to do during their down times when they don't have an acting gig.
    Which is what for her, 20 years ago?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratgrrl View Post
    But, I doubt anyone would want to lose their hair... Especially women who by society's standards of beauty should have hair. Once treated it can grow back. That's hardly worth your life over.

    I am surprised by the attitude she has towards breast cancer. Breast augmentation is covered under most, if not all, health insurance companies if due to a mastectomy. Not that she couldn't afford the surgery anyway.
    My cousin in law died of lung cancer. During chemo, she lost all of her hair, but wore a wig that you could not tell was a wig. Hair is not worth your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cindyt View Post
    My cousin in law died of lung cancer. During chemo, she lost all of her hair, but wore a wig that you could not tell was a wig. Hair is not worth your life.
    You're right Cindy. I can't believe anyone would risk their life over something like that.

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    Katheryn Joosten, I love you

    ??Desperate Housewives? actress Kathryn Joosten is not a fan of Suzanne Somers?? alternative therapies.

    ??She can eat all the f***ing mushrooms she wants,? the actress, who was diagnosed with a second bout of lung cancer in September, said on Sirius XM OutQ??s ??The Derek and Romaine Show? on Thursday.

    CLICK HERE to listen to the audio.

    Suzanne recently caught flack for her remarks following the death of Patrick Swayze by cancer, which she later apologized for. The actress and self-styled health guru is against the use of chemotherapy to fight cancer.

    But Kathryn called her advice ??highly irresponsible.?

    ??Don??t even start me on that. I think it??s highly irresponsible for her to promote alternative therapy,? the 69-year-old actress said. ??I would never dream, even as a former nurse ?? which I was for 10 years ?? of proposing treatment protocols, one over another.?

    Kathryn defeated a previous lung cancer bout in 2001.
    http://www.accesshollywood.com/kathr..._article_25439

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    Here is a story about a Dutch actress. She was very populair here, but also did not listen to regular doctors.

    Sylvia Millecam (Boxmeer, February 23, 1956August 19, 2001) was a Dutch actor and comedian.
    Millecam was born in The Hague and later moved to Boxmeer. Millecam became famous after appearing in popular television shows like Ook Dat Nog (based on That's Life! on the BBC) and "Buitenlandse Zaken", a show with sketches and political satire.
    She was named most popular Dutch television personality hosted by the Tros (a Dutch broadcasting company) twice in a row (beating Linda de Mol who would come second on these occasions).
    Sylvia posed for Playboy twice, once in 1989 and a second time in 1994. In 1994 she had her own show, The Sylvia Millecam Show, and several years later Miss Millecam, both on RTL4.
    In 1999 Millecam was diagnosed with possible breast cancer. Her condition was confirmed in 2000. (Before this, and probably unrelated, Millecam had suffered ruptured breast implants.) Although she visited several regular doctors, she chose to forgo regular treatment and instead sought second opinions from several paranormal and alternative healers including the Dutch new age guru, Jomanda. Millecam's condition steadily worsened, and she was eventually moved to a regular hospital at a time when the tumor was so large as to be beyond medical treatment. She died in the hospital in Nijmegen two days later, after receiving the last rites.
    On June 19, 2007, three physicians who were involved in alternative therapies of Millecam, were prohibited to continue their work as physicians. Two of them permanently, the other for one year
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    [quote=Ratgrrl;961074]I've been wondering about the safety of that too. Even though, I do believe in getting vaccinated. What would be the long-term affect on the unborn child?
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    O.K. - Bill Maher married, or even have children? Funny thing is, for the many millions who do have health insurance, women have picked an OB/GYN, most likely, before they ever conceive. So, as a woman, I put my life, and the life of my unborn child, in the hands of somebody, I've already formed a relationship with, and trust. Gee, who's advice do I follow - my doctor's, or Bill's? I may ask for an opinion of what I've read in the papers, but I trust the doctor, to make the decision.

    I wonder what Maher would do, if his doctor told him, "Hey, Bill, take the damn shot, or risk your loved one's life, and the baby."

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    i woodnt do chemo if i get cancer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrwzeigle View Post
    Don't listen to those people who went to medical school for 8+ years, and are trying to find a cure for this fucking ugly disease. Listen to me! I'm famous!



    Should die? Hell, Ich, they will die without proper medical treatment. But that's ok, because if she could sell thighmasters to amputees, then she must know what she's talking about.
    Im not dissing her for promoting alternative approaches towards defeating cancer (the old standbys surely arent worth a fuck). Suzanne is surely within her rights regardless of medical credentials to postulate her sequitur in a public forum. Surely we would all be thrilled to entertain an audience of equal size with our peculiar notions.
    Most amputees still have a thigh (considering the fact that people are born with arms in addition to the perambulatory extention http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZnJYi3e3xY). Excepting extreme conditions most leg amputees still have both thighs making the satyrical argument that if Christmas Snow can sell a Thighmaster to an amputee than she must know what shes talking about negligable.
    I was basically stating that if you are going to base a life or death decision on one persons proposition ( hell it could be thirty medical professionals they are all mostly trained to offer the same solution) rather than seek and study every possible alternative then statistically you are going to achieve the standard result of the proffered treatment. The commonly acepted course is to poison the body when a lifetime of poison led to the cancerous condition in the first place. How silly to suggest otherwise.
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    And comedian Bill Maher has made no secret of his disdain for flu shots, questioning why you'd let someone "stick a disease into your arm." He also said pregnant women shouldn't get the new swine flu vaccine, contradicting U.S. health officials who say pregnant women especially need it because they are at high risk for flu complications.

    Someone should stick a disease up his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack-O-Lantern View Post
    And comedian Bill Maher has made no secret of his disdain for flu shots, questioning why you'd let someone "stick a disease into your arm." He also said pregnant women shouldn't get the new swine flu vaccine, contradicting U.S. health officials who say pregnant women especially need it because they are at high risk for flu complications.

    Someone should stick a disease up his ass.

    Bill Maher is a hemorrhoid.

    Such a irrelevant bastard!

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    If Suzanne Somers and Jenny McCarthy are as smart as my mom wants to believe they are, then she'd also be listening to Tom Cruise spout off to Matt Lauer about Matt being glib and not knowing anything about psych medicine.

    If vaccinations are the cause of autism, then we (the US) would be a nation FULL of autistic people. Think about it. I don't listen to celebs spouting off medical stuff like they are the ultimate authority on all things medical, simply because these fools aren't degreed/credentialed in medicine. While whatever treatment they used worked for them, they need to stop acting like their word if final for everyone. Not everyone would have the same results.

    *steps off of soapbox now*

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    Pamebabby Guest
    I had cancer in 2004. I did not get chemo because my SURGEON said I didn't need it. Had he said I did, my long hair would have been history. I was in no position to decide, and felt it was up to them. Should cancer return, and DR says so, I'll do the chemo. SS is an ass to take her life in her own hands, but it's her life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamebabby View Post
    I had cancer in 2004. I did not get chemo because my SURGEON said I didn't need it. Had he said I did, my long hair would have been history. I was in no position to decide, and felt it was up to them. Should cancer return, and DR says so, I'll do the chemo. SS is an ass to take her life in her own hands, but it's her life.
    Agreed about SS. I place no stock in what ANY celeb says about anything medical. If it worked for them and they want to share the info with others, that's one thing. But I seriously doubt that's where SS was coming from.

    I hope for you Pamebabby, that the cancer does NOT return. And that you are able to get/remain canver free for life. *soft hugs for you* I have seen what cancer (regardless of it being breast, ovarian, cervical, testicular, leukemia, brain, etc) does to a person, and I have lost friends to it, and I have friends whom have survived and are cancer free now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheri View Post
    Agreed about SS. I place no stock in what ANY celeb says about anything medical. If it worked for them and they want to share the info with others, that's one thing. But I seriously doubt that's where SS was coming from.

    I hope for you Pamebabby, that the cancer does NOT return. And that you are able to get/remain canver free for life. *soft hugs for you* I have seen what cancer (regardless of it being breast, ovarian, cervical, testicular, leukemia, brain, etc) does to a person, and I have lost friends to it, and I have friends whom have survived and are cancer free now.
    Thank you Sheri- it was a rare form, so I'm good for now. Cancer doesn't run in my family either, so chances are good. My Drs. referred to me as the "drama queen" because it was such a rare form, I made a few of their records, and I'm the only patient my GP has who has had this type of cancer. So, we all have a laugh about it, still, and all I can say is anyone who has, or gets cancer, do the chemo for those you might leave behind. It's not fun, as I know, but it might help. In the mean time, live each day as though it's your last-it just might be.

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