*Dials 911 cause she fell off her chair and broke her hip*
It's not true.
You said vast majority.A stereotype is a preconceived idea that attributes certain characteristics (in general) to all the members of class or set. The term is often used with a negative conotation when referring to an oversimplified, exaggerated, or demeaning assumption that a particular individual posseses the characteristics associated with the class due to his or her membership in it. Stereotypes can be used to deny individuals respect or legitimacy based on their membership in that group.
Afraid to say anything because I'm not light enough. I didn't know that I wasn't....until now.
Indeed I did, and I stand by that, if I were to make a list of all the celebrities that seem to be not quite stable, the list would be long, and if it is all a ruse to make us think they are a bit 'off' well then I say, they are even more so
He's an actor; I'm SURE he knows what he's doing or is at least conscious of his actions. If this is a publicity stunt of some kind I love this sort of angle.
I thought for a second that it was serious that he was going downhill and that he was serious about rapping. I was a bit worried about him. Then i saw the perez vid and heard about his "meltdown" in front of Casey Affleck and now the Letterman appearance. Maybe it's some spoof like this is Spinal Tap and it will be premiered at the Sundance Film Festival.
I like a good freak show just like the next guy myself...Makes life less trivial...
I'm convinced that this is all just a put on for that Casey Affleck documentary. This makes me think of that movie Pauly Shore is dead.
Pauly Shore is still ALIVE!?!?!?! Next you are gonna tell me that Carrot Top is for real!
He and his "rap" career can hang out with K-Fed!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]peek-a-boo!!
Brittney bought the majority of them with child support money!
I just seriously doubt this is a publicity stunt...He may be a good actor...But he's not that great...
I dunno at first I thought it was for real and was really disappointed and concerned but the more I see the more there's an Andy Kaufmanish feel to this. I just wish he'd be done with it if it is a stunt!
Amen Snoopy...He needs to get back to what makes him popular...Like doing his Johnny Cash impersonation...
He was on drugs, for sure. Act or not.
"Joaquin, I'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight."
---I tell you no lie, I laughed for 10 minutes. That shit was really, really funny. Letterman still has it.
I think it looked like Joaquin was trying not to laugh quite a few times.
I agree with Lainey:
"See? Three for three. Maybe it should be a daily feature.
It’s must see TV. The video is below – Joaquin Phoenix behaving like a petulant child forced to go Aunt Mabel’s house last night with Letterman.
No doubt he’s a douche. But the question this morning, on top of his recent shenanigans – the rapping, the retirement – was this just another chapter in his unfunny, ongoing F-ck You vanity project? Casey Affleck travelled with Joaquin to New York, attended the Letterman taping with him, and was seen with his camera, presumably documenting the entire awkward, embarrassing experience.
Also – was Letterman in on it?
I can’t decide. On the one hand, it’s hard to believe a person could be so audaciously insolent at someone else’s house without previously informing his host about what he was up to. If that’s the case, Letterman is a better actor than Joaquin once was.
Yes, very possible that Letterman was previously informed about the “performance” and played along.
But to me, Letterman, for all his irreverence, is not RUDE. And I’m not sure he’d be willing bring on a guest only to fake out his audience, a loyal audience that has sustained him all these years. There are moments too when Dave seems genuinely annoyed, and while he still manages to be gracious and more patient that say my father-in-law who would have lost his sh-t from the very top when Phoenix walked out in sunglasses there’s also the sense that he’s as surprised as everyone else.
Or not.
Like I said, I can’t decide. You decide.
There is however no debate about his guest. And you can quit the bleeding in your heart. Other than the fact that he’s a giant asshole, there’s nothing wrong with Joaquin Phoenix…beyond the usual celebrity sense of entitlement, of course. And the utter disregard he has for those he works with, those who support him, and those who have admired him in the past. Yeah, those are his only flaws.
Joaquin is notoriously shy. We know this. But he was there to promote Two Lovers. He agreed to the assignment. He even asked his bestie to come along and shoot it. That implies calculation. There was a plan involved. They plotted. They are plotting. You don’t get to pull the “I’m nervous” card when you start exploiting the experience. And therefore blaming his shambolic appearance on nerves totally doesn’t fly.
Two Lovers is JP’s third film for James Gray. As you can see from the video, it was a piss poor effort at promotion, letting down not only his own contribution, but that of every person who laboured on the movie. Nobody gets to do that just because they’ve become disillusioned with the business. There is no excuse on a team level for bringing down everyone else’s hard work. The only conclusion then is that Joaquin Phoenix is not a team player. He has no regard for his peers, his crew, his management, his director.
Joaquin Phoenix is all about Joaquin Phoenix. His favourite word is “I”. His second favourite word is “Me”. In this regard, Joaquin Phoenix IS Mariah Carey.
Selfish, narcissistic, inconsiderate – and he has always claimed to be otherwise. Or he’s been sold to be otherwise, perhaps that’s the disconnect. Perhaps JP has been a dickhead all along, and his truculence has just cleverly been explained away as discomfort with the press. Because he has always claimed he hates the press, is mistrustful of the media after how the death of his brother was reported. Understandable.
But publicity is part of a job. Grownups have jobs. Do you have a job? If you do have a job, do you like every part of your job? All of us, even if we love our jobs, there are certain aspects of our job that make us crazy. It could be filing. It could be data entry. When I was in fundraising I hated writing briefing notes. Tedious and boring.
But you do it because …well… you have to. You have children, you have a mortgage, you have to eat. It’s your reality.
Joaquin Phoenix’s reality?
He got rich from acting, now he has the luxury of not bathing or grooming, the freedom to spend his days not worrying about his house, and the luxury of living a hoax for the sake of “higher art”.
Feel sorry for this mother-cker? Waste of time."
via: http://laineygossip.com/Joaquin_Phoe...atID=0&CelID=0
Exactly!!!
Regardless of motive, it's a big ol' "fuck you Hollywood."
Maybe it'll give some of these ridiculous plastic surgery and botox-ridden tinseltown idiots something to think about...but of course they HATE being made fun of...especially by one of their own!
I think it's genius, and am appreciating Phoenix more every day!
I don't think he seems to be on drugs (at least on Letterman) at all. He's just incredibly reticent, but he absolutely knows what's going on. He's not out of it. And I have to say I agree with Aaron that there's an Andy Kaufman quality about the whole situation.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
This is ridiculous, whoever Lainey is.
Are people REALLY offended by what he's doing? I don't get it. Do people ache badly enough to be pissed off at something, that they'll pick this? All this critical talk around here about actors surrounded by 'yes' people, living the high life and he decides to turn it on its ear, maybe because he's sick of all of the bullshit - the same Hollywood bullshit we all can't stand - but instead of cheering him on, he's vilified for something that's not affecting any of you in any way, shape or form.
Last edited by AaronVail; 02-12-2009 at 05:55 PM.
I don't care either way what this kid does. I do however, believe it was incredibly rude to go on Letterman's show and behave like it was a waste of his time and he had better things to do. If you don't like something, don't do it. Otherwise isn't he just feeding the Hollywood machine of bullshit? Going on some lame show to promote another lame movie. If he wanted out of the game that badly and retire like he said he would, then why the hell is he on my TV?
(And Lainey is a very educated entertainment journalist from Canada.)
Sorry, anything goes as for comments on celebrities here. Flattering, unflattering.
Frankly, I think lainey is pretty spot-on. Phoenix has either lost it or is indeed a colossal douche. Either way, he's becoming tedious. I'm glad he appeared on Letterman. Good. I'm glad people can see how fucked up and self-absorbed he's become.
Oh that's right, many of the actors here are smelly douchebags with too much time on their hands.
Lainey (Elaine Lui) is one of the hosts of Etalk in Canada. I've never watched it since I'm in the US. What makes you think she isn't educated or intelligent?
Regardless, I personally think she's smart and funny.
http://www.thevancouverite.com/the_v...interview_ela/
Last edited by Lily_Aleister; 02-12-2009 at 06:35 PM.
I watched it last night when I saw he was going to be on Letterman... I wasn't disappointed.
What I am disappointed about is coming to this thread for a chuckle and find it all being argumentive. Lighten up should go for everyone, especially the person who said it first. Geez.
Oh well, nothing fun to say now. See y'all on other threads.
Or, he's acting! Why do you guys all stop at only two possible explanations (he's insane or he's an asshole)? It almost sounds like you're all pissed off he fooled you because if he is indeed acting (likely), I don't see how this would make him a douche. Do you not think Letterman - if he wasn't a willing participant - knew about what would happen considering what Joaquin's been up to lately?
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---Yes. I'd like to know this also. Why does he keep saying goodbye? Just like Cher and Barbara Streisand, just do the last show and be gone if you're going. Damn.
In perpetually presenting himself as some hermit recluse out for the evening, he certainly has generated plenty of publicity for himself. I guess job well done, then.
And I do not believe any rappers have shown him any respect in any way.
"being argumentive"
---Who?
aaronvail actually presents good points. Yes, I do know he's "acting". But he's "acting" like a douchebag. That's not to say he is one. I don't know him. But if he's acting like a douchebag, I end up asking myself "why"? Something is amiss. He is expressing something. Acting out something. I don't know what's up with the Joaq but he's changed and not to people's liking. If he's happy, ultimately that's what's important but he surely isn't suprised at people's dismay.
I don't really know who lainey is, no sweat off my or anyone's berries here if she isn't liked. I have read that lots of people are not fans. I still liked the article posted here though.
Last edited by cachluv; 02-12-2009 at 06:46 PM.
Because no one likes being scammed ... which is what he is trying to do...if in fact he is NOT on drugs or NOT clinically mentally ill, as you are insisting he is not. And I can speak for myself ... I am not 'fooled'. I see a douche ... just like he wants us to see.
And to imply any of us are pissed off would imply that any of us really care about JP ... which I doubt any of us do