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    I recall that Frank was a good friend of Judy Garland. But it seems there was a story I heard when he died about a time she was in NYC and he was in Vegas or somewhere and someone was attacking her in her room and he called the NYC cops and about a hundred cops busted down the door--the point being the cops responded to Blue Eyes so quickly or something like that. Anyone hear this or know the details?

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    Everytime I see anything emerald, I think of the earrings that he gave MM.

    Also, her poodle Maf was a gift from Frankie.

    I remember when his forever love Ava Gardner died, he sent beautiful flowers and the card read simply "Always, F"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxxx View Post
    Hmmmm, interesting, so that ghostwriter wrote what he thought Frank would say, good thing it was like something Frank would say, or else he would really be a "ghost" writer.
    Frank signed off and approved what was written before it was published!

    Alot of those still show up as quotes from Frank on various websites!!

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    I guess Frank wasn't big on uninvited company. I read that on the front of his house was a sign that read "If you haven't been invited you better have a damn good reason for ringing this doorbell"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay View Post
    I guess Frank wasn't big on uninvited company. I read that on the front of his house was a sign that read "If you haven't been invited you better have a damn good reason for ringing this doorbell"

    I also hear he had a sign that said "Forget the dog, beware of the owner."

    Frank was a true case of bi-polar I think. The stories I have read on the guy...

    One strange dude!!!!

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    Not a nice guy. He was lucky he could sing.

    I just read Kitty Kelly's book on him. Felt dirty afterwards and threw it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Not a nice guy. He was lucky he could sing.

    I just read Kitty Kelly's book on him. Felt dirty afterwards and threw it out.
    Did you notice in the book though how he would help complete strangers who he would read about in newspapers by giving them money or paying off bills for them!

    Frank was a very complex guy!!!

    I loved the beginning of the book where Frank tried to sue her for 2 Million dollars for doing the book.

    His family claims it was Her book that caused Franks health to deteriorate when it came out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Did you notice in the book though how he would help complete strangers who he would read about in newspapers by giving them money or paying off bills for them!

    Frank was a very complex guy!!!

    I loved the beginning of the book where Frank tried to sue her for 2 Million dollars for doing the book.

    His family claims it was Her book that caused Franks health to deteriorate when it came out!!

    I think his charity was at last partly motivated by narcissism--not looking for praise necessarily, but more like, "I control the world and therefore have to help these unfortunate beings." I just got tired of reading how poorly he treated those around him. Sure, I'll go with "complex."

    Kitty Kelley certainly had balls of steel...

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    i dont think that Frank was a terrible person, ive always thought, as Danny pointed out, that he had some serious mental issues, probably a bipolar disorder. ive read lots of biographies and articles about him and the best words that can describe him are COMPLEX, MOODY and MELANCHOLIC.
    I also think that he really CARED for his friends, for her REAL friends.
    ive read that when Bogart got sick Frank was devastated. Even the night before of Bogie's first big operation to try to cut out the cancer Frank gave a party for him.
    Another complex part of his personality is that he was obsessively clean and hated when people coughed around him. He also loathed hospitals.

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    Aw, you guys are nice. I still say it was "all about him." I think the one person he cared for in a normal, genuine, uncomplicated way was Little Nancy.

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    No doubt Nancy was his favorite...I hear it caused alot of anguish with Frank Jr.

    I think Frank partly cared and partly it was show of how important he was and a Mental case!! I hear alot of times when he helped people out he wanted no publicity about it!

    Then sometimes he wanted to make sure everyone heard about it!!!

    I mean A guy who changed is underwear and showered numerous times a day!?

    Yes nothing wrong with being clean but Frank had some serious issues!!!

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    How come when celebs do charity we'd "never know about," we always wind up knowing about it?

    Ah well, in the end it's the deed that counts, right? I just wish people like Frank wouldn't negate all the good deeds with nasty ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    How come when celebs do charity we'd "never know about," we always wind up knowing about it?

    Ah well, in the end it's the deed that counts, right? I just wish people like Frank wouldn't negate all the good deeds with nasty ones.
    I think that was part of why he did it! No doubt Frank poured millions into Charity's!!


    But he did have a very real DARK SIDE as well!!

    But if you didn't really read stories about Frank you would think he was a great guy who did no wrong!

    They still manage to cover up Franks "Other Side" really well!!

    Makes you wonder if Frank made it to the clouds or under the earth? LOL

    I Still love his music from the 50's and 60's!!! Now him...another story!!!

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    Well....God seemed to like Frank, he was pretty good to him in Life. So I bet he's with The Man Upstairs, baby. Despite the (bogus) stuff he said about Him in Playboy. (And by Him, I mean the lord, not Frank)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Well....God seemed to like Frank, he was pretty good to him in Life. So I bet he's with The Man Upstairs, baby. Despite the (bogus) stuff he said about Him in Playboy. (And by Him, I mean the lord, not Frank)
    Are you referring to how Frank never really gave the interview? LOL

    I still hate how quotes about Frank come out and he never said them!!!!

    I think that Bogus interview made people think what a great caring man he was!

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    Exactly....what a free thinker he was, unexpectedly intelligent, with-it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Exactly....what a free thinker he was, unexpectedly intelligent, with-it.....
    LOL

    I about dropped the book when I Read about the interview being bogus!!!

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    Well, Frank could sing, obviously, and for a time he was a great entertainer and an elegant-looking guy in his way. But I hate reading about all his little temper tantrums. And the whole noble business of "I Did it My Way"...what exactly was he taking credit for?

    Now if Nelson Mandela or someone like that were singing the song....ok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Well, Frank could sing, obviously, and for a time he was a great entertainer and an elegant-looking guy in his way. But I hate reading about all his little temper tantrums. And the whole noble business of "I Did it My Way"...what exactly was he taking credit for?

    Now if Nelson Mandela or someone like that were singing the song....ok!

    Or as Kitty Kelly said "His way." LOL

    Remember the part where the old Janitor went to shake Franks hands and he had his "Goons" beat the poor guy up!!

    Or the guy who lived here In Salt Lake Frank had him beat up for supposedly trying to pickup his last wife!!!

    What a fruitcake!!!

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    My absolute favorite line in the book was Mama Dolly's alleged comment about Barbara becoming Frank's fiance. lol

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    Any pictures of a "Frank in a box"??

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    Quote Originally Posted by leevancleef View Post
    ive read that when Bogart got sick Frank was devastated. Even the night before of Bogie's first big operation to try to cut out the cancer Frank gave a party for him..
    It's said he also went out of his way to comfort Lauren Bacall, both during Bogie's illness and after he died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    It's said he also went out of his way to comfort Lauren Bacall, both during Bogie's illness and after he died.

    Didn't he shit on her if I recall. They were going to get married...and Frank backed out at the end?

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    Oh yeah, she got unceremoniously dumped, and sounds pissed about it to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Oh yeah, she got unceremoniously dumped, and sounds pissed about it to this day.
    Much like Frank, never forgave someone! Don't you just love how he divorced Mia Farrow!?

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    Mia just walked away from him, asking for nothing. Of course, she could afford to do that. But still, that's the way to deal with being dumped by Frank!

    But wait....I was skipping pages at that point.....can't remember, what classy way did he do it? Served papers on the movie set or something?
    Last edited by Noelle Page; 02-09-2008 at 09:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Mia just walked away from him, asking for nothing. Of course, she could afford to do that. But still, that's the way to deal with being dumped by Frank!

    But wait....I was skipping pages at that point.....can't remember, what classy way did he do it? Served papers on the movie set or something?
    Frank and Mia's marriage is one of the oddest marriages of all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Mia just walked away from him, asking for nothing. Of course, she could afford to do that. But still, that's the way to deal with being dumped by Frank!

    But wait....I was skipping pages at that point.....can't remember, what classy way did he do it? Served papers on the movie set or something?
    Yep Frank had his prick lawyer show up on the set of a Movie with the divorce papers.

    What was odd is She knew Frank wanted a stay at home wife...why the hell did she marry him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Yep Frank had his prick lawyer show up on the set of a Movie with the divorce papers.

    What was odd is She knew Frank wanted a stay at home wife...why the hell did she marry him?
    Nice.

    BTW, I love hearing someone use the word prick. It is not often used anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lisalouver View Post
    Nice.

    BTW, I love hearing someone use the word prick. It is not often used anymore.
    That is what everyone used to call Franks lawyer in Kitty Kellys book!! So I am just thinking back to Franks "Prick Lawyer." LOL

    I just can't remember his damn name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny62 View Post
    Yep Frank had his prick lawyer show up on the set of a Movie with the divorce papers.

    What was odd is She knew Frank wanted a stay at home wife...why the hell did she marry him?

    Because. They dont take it seriously anyway. they just felt like it.

    Yeah, prick's a great word.

    I like this thread. It's comfy and fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Because. They dont take it seriously anyway. they just felt like it.

    Yeah, prick's a great word.

    I like this thread. It's comfy and fun.
    If I recall all of Franks family and friends knew the Mia farrow marriage would not last!!!

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    Another gem of a quote from old Dolly:

    "This one, she don't talk. She don't eat. What's she do?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Because. They dont take it seriously anyway. they just felt like it.

    Yeah, prick's a great word.

    I like this thread. It's comfy and fun.
    It is a great thread!

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    Yeah, my kind of thread. Funny how each thread has its own personality. Some get very seriouslike and you have to "behave." Not here in Frank's World!

    For which I guess we should tip our hats to Ol' Blue Eyes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Yeah, my kind of thread. Funny how each thread has its own personality. Some get very seriouslike and you have to "behave." Not here in Frank's World!

    For which I guess we should tip our hats to Ol' Blue Eyes!
    haha, thats so true!

    By the way, Danny, i believe that Sinatra's attorney was MILTON RUDIN.

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    Can we stick with "prick lawyer"?

    My phrase of the day!

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    I am reading Kitty Kelley book too. I guess his wife Barbara was still married to Harpo Marx when she started seeing "ole blues eyes". Even though she was seeing Frank , she sued Harpo for divorce, got alimony and a a 69 Jaguar out of that marriage. Barbara always married up and I guess marrying Frank was the "top of the heap".

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    She was married to Zeppo

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    You're right it was Zeppo

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    I hear Barbara was always trying to Marry up the ladder. And Zeppo was a good spring board to get to Frank!

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    Frank's mother Dolly, used to call Barbara the whore. This from the woman who was known for her tabletop abortions back in Hoboken. Our families were neighbors, so it's verified true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overtaxed View Post
    Frank's mother Dolly, used to call Barbara the whore. This from the woman who was known for her tabletop abortions back in Hoboken. Our families were neighbors, so it's verified true!
    Yep Kitty Kelly goes into her abortion ring in her book!!!

    I think Frank was such a "Mamma's boy" Dolly really didn't like anyone. I think she liked Franks first wife and that was it.

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    No Danny, for once you're wrong! Dolly did not like Big Nancy, thought she was dumpy. She liked Ava! That was her idea of a woman worthy of her boy. At least according to the KK book.

    Dolly's alleged quote about Barbara, again from KK, always cracked me up: "I don't want no whore coming into this family." Poor Barbara. I think she was the best one for Frank.

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    does anyone wish he had had woody allens legs' broken anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    No Danny, for once you're wrong! Dolly did not like Big Nancy, thought she was dumpy. She liked Ava! That was her idea of a woman worthy of her boy. At least according to the KK book.

    Dolly's alleged quote about Barbara, again from KK, always cracked me up: "I don't want no whore coming into this family." Poor Barbara. I think she was the best one for Frank.
    I think you are right. Thanks for correcting me...its been years since I read the book!

    I think Barbara was a money grubber in my opinion anyway! I can't think she loved Frank more for his money than for him!!

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    Well, at their wedding, when the priest asked Barbara if she would take Frank for richer or poorer, he (Frank) cracked, "Richer, richer!" He knew. But at that point he also knew he needed a certain even-tempered, uncomplicated kind of wife, which Barbara was.

    Gee, I thought I hated this book, but I sure remembered a lot of lines from it~

    Whoops, priest? what was I thinking, I'm sure it was a judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Well, at their wedding, when the priest asked Barbara if she would take Frank for richer or poorer, he (Frank) cracked, "Richer, richer!" He knew. But at that point he also knew he needed a certain even-tempered, uncomplicated kind of wife, which Barbara was.

    Gee, I thought I hated this book, but I sure remembered a lot of lines from it~

    Whoops, priest? what was I thinking, I'm sure it was a judge.
    Barbara was only Uncomplicated because of the money!!!

    I think it was a judge also. Wasn't Ronald Reagan best man if I recall?

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    Reagan....sounds right, maybe. Like I said, I was skipping around at that point.

    But at least Frank and Barbara understood each other. That's as good a basis for a successful marriage as anything, I guess.

    Hey, is Big Nancy still alive? They said she was waiting for Frank to come home right up to his dying day. Still considers herself his wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelle Page View Post
    Reagan....sounds right, maybe. Like I said, I was skipping around at that point.

    But at least Frank and Barbara understood each other. That's as good a basis for a successful marriage as anything, I guess.

    Hey, is Big Nancy still alive? They said she was waiting for Frank to come home right up to his dying day. Still considers herself his wife.
    From what I can tell she is still alive? I imagine when she kicks the bucket it will be front page news! I googled it awhile back and didn't find she was dead! LOL

    Well Frank lasted the longest with Barbara 22 years so they must have done some thing right!!

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