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    Martin Scorsese to direct Frank Sinatra biopic

    http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle6296820.ece

    What do you all think of this? I think this should be very interesting. I can't wait.

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    If they do it right, it could be fantastic. If they go wrong, it will be a disaster. I really thought Ray Liotta did a hell of a Sinatra in the HBO movie, but there may be someone better. I can't see DiCaprio though.

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    Frank Sinatra never did much for me. Im sure the movie will be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ichabodius View Post
    Frank Sinatra never did much for me. Im sure the movie will be great.
    I agree Ichy.

    Wonder if they can find someone slimy enough to play him!!

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    Harry Connick Jr would be my choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilmpenny View Post
    Harry Connick Jr would be my choice.
    I can picture that. Good choice

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    I agree ... Harry Connick would be a good choice. I wonder how truthful the film will be ... . He ranks low in treating others with kindness and respect. Scorsese as a loyal Italian and film maker ... hmm .

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilmpenny View Post
    Harry Connick Jr would be my choice.

    He has the voice, but he will have to take asshole and jagoff lessons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cleanskull View Post
    He has the voice, but he will have to take asshole and jagoff lessons.

    He played a pretty nasty guy in Copycat.....he could do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoeAnne View Post
    He played a pretty nasty guy in Copycat.....he could do it
    GAH ! He creeped me OUT in that movie ! But he's got the voice and style to do a killer Sinatra

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    There's some other guy that sings Sinatra and sounds just like him and I can't think of his name....and I think he acts?...

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    Harry Connick, Jr may be best man for the job. I don't know how much influence Sinatra wields from the grave, but I doubt how truthful and factual the story will be. How much objection will come from the Italian community, but especially the Mafia folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppie View Post
    Harry Connick, Jr may be best man for the job. I don't know how much influence Sinatra wields from the grave, but I doubt how truthful and factual the story will be. How much objection will come from the Italian community, but especially the Mafia folks.
    I think Harry Connick Jr would do a wonderful Job! NOT Johnny Depp or DiCaprio!! I think Jim Carrey might do a good job....Yeah I am being serious! He is a hell of an actor!!

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    Personally, I always thought George Clooney could pull it off, but I think Harry Connick Jr would do well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Long Gone Day View Post
    There's some other guy that sings Sinatra and sounds just like him and I can't think of his name....and I think he acts?...
    You mean Michael Buble' ? He would also have to take douche bag classes, because I've heard he's a nice fella.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYgqZYQYzwA


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    There are news articles on IMDb that say Jamie Foxx is set to play Sinatra. I'm assuming this is a joke though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajlposh View Post
    There are news articles on IMDb that say Jamie Foxx is set to play Sinatra. I'm assuming this is a joke though.
    I can see the similarities

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    And the role goes to:


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    YAWN!!

    Hollywood has lost ALL creativity IMO---how about some NEW ideas?!?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallulahDahling View Post
    Hollywood has lost ALL creativity IMO---how about some NEW ideas?!?!!
    I agree I want to see FAD:The movie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
    I agree I want to see FAD:The movie
    BRILLIANT!!! Do we cast Connick to play you, dahling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallulahDahling View Post
    BRILLIANT!!! Do we cast Connick to play you, dahling?
    Oh only I have the looks to play me (interpret as appropriate)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad View Post
    I agree I want to see FAD:The movie
    Brilliant! I want Don Rickles to play me, even though he's sixty years older than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisdr View Post
    http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/sinatramug1.html

    I found this and thought it is interesting to view...

    LMAO, I can't what he got busted for:


    Frank Sinatra was arrested by the Bergen County, New Jersey sheriff in 1938 and charged with carrying on with a married woman (yes, you could get popped for that back then). The charge was later changed to adultery, and eventually dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanddodger View Post
    LMAO, I can't what he got busted for:


    Frank Sinatra was arrested by the Bergen County, New Jersey sheriff in 1938 and charged with carrying on with a married woman (yes, you could get popped for that back then). The charge was later changed to adultery, and eventually dismissed.
    It is still illegal technically in New Hampshire. Audltery is a 1400 dollar fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STsFirstmate View Post
    It is still illegal technically in New Hampshire. Audltery is a 1400 dollar fine.
    Regards,
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    They should enforce it. New Hampshire would be one of the richest states in the union.

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    One of my favorite Sinatra stories....

    After his eightieth birthday television special, he was getting ready to go down a flight of stairs. Tony Danza came over and, trying to help him down, took him by the arm. Ol' Blue Eyes then said: 'I got it. Get off." This was at eighty years old! I love that story!

    I love this pic, too:


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    Can't remember who told this story but they met Frank in his later years in Vegas. He thought it was really funny that Frank had on a Member's Only jacket with his name embroidered on it, like he needed to identify himself.

    Is the Kitty Kelly book really good? I don't trust her because her sources seem shady. I know she claims that no one has successfully sued her for libel, but I've read some of her other books and I always find half-truths and insinuations.

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    I thought I might have posted this earlier in the thread but I looked and didn't see it. If I am repeating myself I am sorry and clearly suffering from dementia.
    Nancy Sinatra said in an interview they buried Frank with a pack of filtered camels and a roll of fresh dimes in his pocket.
    The Camels are obvious but the dimes were a holdover from when young Frank Jr. was kidnapped. He was contacting the kidnappers at various payphones and kept running out of dimes. The rest of his life he always carried a roll of dime with him.
    I think what ever flaws the guy had he was loved by his kids and loyal to his friends. In a very different society he was there for Sammy Davis Junior including the stuff his handlers wanted him to distance himself from like Sammy's wedding to blond, white Britt. It was just not done in those days. Frank hung in there for his friend in several situations and had an impact on how minority performers were treated and viewed in Vegas and elsewhere.
    I liked the guy and I love his music.
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    Tapes reveal Nixon aides warned of getting too close to Sinatra

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    I've been reading this thread, and wow, Sinatra certainly sounded like a huge homophobe. The way he used the word fag?! Ugh. He seemed to obsessed with it. I've been a fan of his for a long time and I've heard things, read things, but never what I've seen on here. What an a-hole, good singer, but geez a major douche. A real bully. The whole tough guy persona he put on was eh, lame, since he almost always had "his thugs" beat up people he didn't like. I remember Phil Hartman's impression of him on SNl. On one segment he verbally confronts another person, threatens them and then tells someone else to "kick his ass."

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    Love his music.

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    Casino at former Rat Pack hangout closes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidmor View Post
    Casino at former Rat Pack hangout closes
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    It is reputed to be quite haunted. Dean Martin, Frank and Sammy Davis as well as Marilyn Monroe have all been seen or heard by guests.
    There is an elaborate tunnel system under it that the mob use to use that is supposed to be haunted as well.
    It was featured on Dead Famous, a ghost hunting show. Sad to see it closing.
    Regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by STsFirstmate View Post
    It is reputed to be quite haunted. Dean Martin, Frank and Sammy Davis as well as Marilyn Monroe have all been seen or heard by guests.
    There is an elaborate tunnel system under it that the mob use to use that is supposed to be haunted as well.
    That would be an inordinate quantity of disembodied crooning...gives "Strangers In The Night" a whole new meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidmor View Post
    That would be an inordinate quantity of disembodied crooning...gives "Strangers In The Night" a whole new meaning.
    LOL agreed! and I think Frank, although I loved him, was scary enough when alive to suit me!
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    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/s...atra-says.html


    NEWPORT BEACH – What luck!
    Rick Gorski walked into a neighbor's garage sale with $5 in his pocket. And walked out with a piece of history.

    Rick Gorski bought this white shirt that was supposedly Frank Sinatra's, from a neighbor who lives behind his house, in background.
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    Consider that in the last few years, a William Shatner kidney stone sold for $25,000. A Marilyn Monroe X-ray sold for $45,000. And an Elvis Presley belt sold for $66,000.
    "Something just told me, I've got go over there," the unemployed construction worker says of his purchase last fall. "I remember it so vividly."
    He'd already bought a vacuum cleaner and telephone from the couple moving out of state. This time, he spotted a white tuxedo shirt with a sign: Frank Sinatra's Shirt.
    Lucinda, how do you know that's a Frank Sinatra shirt?
    She lifted one corner of the shirt tail.
    "Frank Sinatra Feb. 1987," was stitched next to "Nat Wise of London ... Sunset Strip, Calif."
    How much?
    For you, Rick, five dollars.
    That was almost a year ago. Ever since, Gorski, 56, of Newport Beach, has tried to sell it – with no luck. Strange as it sounds, he almost feels stuck with it.
    "I'm in a pickle," he says.

    HOW DO YOU KNOW?
    Same question. Always.
    When Gorski told anyone he had a Sinatra shirt, they asked: How do you know?
    He finally phoned one of the most famous ateliers in the world: Anto Distinctive Shirtmakers in Beverly Hills. Past clients include President Ronald Reagan, Mick Jagger ... and Frank Sinatra.
    "We did the Titanic shirt for Leonardo (DiCaprio)," says Anto's son Jack Sepetjian, who now runs the shop with brother Ken. "That tuxedo shirt sold for $10,000 in auction. And the shirt from Brokeback Mountain, that sold for $100,000."
    The Sepetjians merged with Nat Wise in 1987 and have records, in a vault, dating back to 1955.
    Want to know how many buttons Jerry Lewis liked on his polysilk pullovers? Eleven, on a lace-edged placket. Dean Martin's preferred collars? Button-down roll collar using Swiss voile fabrics. Johnny Cash's choice of fabrics? Silk crêpe de Chine and 4-ply silks.
    "We know what Frank (Sinatra) wore in 60s," says Sepetjian. "What style. What fabric. We have it in the archives."
    He dug out the records as Gorski dug out a tape measure and magnifying glass.
    Tag, two inches from bottom? Seven button holes and two in the French cuff? Gathered sleeves? Double-stitched placket?
    He had Gorski measure the pleated breastplate and width of each diagonal pleat.
    "It's Frank's shirt," Sepetjian says.
    In the year following February, 1987, Sinatra performed 80 concerts – from Carnegie Hall to an Italian opera house. Chances are, he performed in the shirt now in Gorski's hands. Several times.
    So what's it worth?

    X-RAY VISION
    For that, we turn to Julien's Auctions, the world's largest entertainment auction house.
    They sold a tuxedo worn by Dean Martin for $20,000. A jacket work by Kurt Cobain for $87,000. And a little glove worn by Michael Jackson for $350,000!
    "He's done the hardest part," says president Darren Julien. "That's finding out if it's authentic with the people that made the shirt."
    Still, that's no up-front guarantee of a big payday. Take, for example, Marilyn Monroe's chest X-Ray.
    Way back in 2002, Julien met the X-ray's owner (daughter of Monroe's former gynecologist), who balked at Julien's conservative estimate of $800-$1,200.
    I really think it needs to bring $5,000, he recalls her saying.
    To which he replied: "You're crazy if you think it'll ever do over $5,000!"
    Last month, she finally relented, and Julien auctioned it in Las Vegas – for $45,000.
    The point is: auction houses list conservative estimates for celebrity memorabilia to ensure interested buyers. An item listed at $800-$1,200 may fetch $45,000. Or it might fetch $800.
    That's the gamble. And that's the pickle Gorski is in.

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    Gorski has done other homework.
    He found two photographs of Sinatra wearing what appears to be this shirt (rare, with its diagonal pleats). One, while receiving an N.A.A.C.P. lifetime achievement award in Los Angeles in May, 1987. And one while singing with Liza Minnelli at U.C. San Diego in January, 1988.
    "He was smart to do the detective work," says Julien, adding that photos are key to adding value. "The more information, the more it's going to sell for."
    Julien once sold a Sinatra jacket, without a photo, for $4,500 and says most Sinatra clothes go between $2,000 and $30,000.
    This one?
    "I'd estimate $800 to $1,200," he says. "And it should sell from $2,000 to $6,000."
    He pretty much knows Gorski's reaction. Same as everyone's: Oh, I thought it would be worth a lot more.
    So let's see:
    "Frank Sinatra is the ultimate American icon," Gorski says, holding the shirt in front of him before a mirror. "How can a shirt Frank Sinatra owned, one of the rarest he ever had made, be the same price as an autographed photo? It doesn't make sense."
    That's why, for now, the shirt hangs in the closet.
    And hangs.
    Gorski can't sell it on eBay, he says – too complicated. And won't sell it through an auction house – too risky. He's in a pickle.
    Would he give it to the Sinatra family?
    "If no one buys the shirt," he says. "I have so much respect for their dad, I'd give it to them."
    All it'd cost him is five bucks.
    To reach Gorski, call 949-612-7440


    This was a cute article. Check out the pics on the link, there's a pic of Marilyn's chest x ray.
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    Sinatra's widow write a book.

    'Lady Blue Eyes' _ Sinatra's Wife Tells It Her Way




    "Lady Blue Eyes: My Life With Frank" (Crown Archetype), by Barbara Sinatra: In her memoir, the widow of Frank Sinatra tells it her way, adding a unique perspective to the history of one of entertainment's greats.
    By now, the self-centered if often generous nature of Sinatra is as well-known as his unequaled voice. What's fascinating about "Lady Blue Eyes" is how Barbara Sinatra turns to love, admiration and denial in explaining her place at Frank's side.
    From her youth in the Midwest to her days as a model and showgirl, Barbara Blakeley longed for a well-heeled life of excitement. In her telling, it was Sinatra, then in his mid-50s, who initiated their affair. Soon, she was Frank's companion — marriage would be years away — and her husband at the time the second unfaithful spouse she had left for a more successful man.
    Little love notes and rather large jewels were part of the good times with Sinatra. While she tends to excuse the darker moments in their three decades together, Barbara accepts that Frank's inner demons came with the glitter and glamour.

    AP
    In this book cover image released by Crown, "Lady Blue Eyes: My Life with Frank," by Barbara Sinatra, is shown. (AP Photo/Crown)



    When Sinatra hurled a brass clock into a wall during a game of charades, she considered it part of his "dangerous" charm. He berated a female columnist who brought up their adultery — for good measure he stuffed two dollar bills in the woman's glass — but Barbara saw his actions as exciting, and a loving defense of her. Friends waited by the phone to see if and when he desired their company, a routine she seems to shrug off.
    Her life revolved around his, and that was fine with her. At his behest she quit smoking — he thought it unfeminine — but he never gave up his unfiltered Camels. She quickly learned what those close to him already knew: When Frank was drunk, which was not infrequent, it was best to disappear.
    Her version of events, such as why Sinatra kept performing far beyond his prime, at times clashes with those of others. "Frankophiles" will debate whether she was as selfless and dutiful as she appears in these pages.
    One image is as chilling as it is sad: Sinatra, on the day he died, sitting in a wheelchair poolside at their Beverly Hills, Calif., home, suffering from heart and lung ailments and memory loss, a half-eaten grilled cheese sandwich on his plate.
    Even Frank Sinatra's money, fame and power had their limits.
    ———
    Douglass K. Daniel is the author of "Tough as Nails: The Life and Films of Richard Brooks" (University of Wisconsin Press).



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    Quote Originally Posted by coconn04 View Post
    Sinatra's widow write a book.

    'Lady Blue Eyes' _ Sinatra's Wife Tells It Her Way




    "Lady Blue Eyes: My Life With Frank" (Crown Archetype), by Barbara Sinatra: In her memoir, the widow of Frank Sinatra tells it her way, adding a unique perspective to the history of one of entertainment's greats.
    By now, the self-centered if often generous nature of Sinatra is as well-known as his unequaled voice. What's fascinating about "Lady Blue Eyes" is how Barbara Sinatra turns to love, admiration and denial in explaining her place at Frank's side.
    From her youth in the Midwest to her days as a model and showgirl, Barbara Blakeley longed for a well-heeled life of excitement. In her telling, it was Sinatra, then in his mid-50s, who initiated their affair. Soon, she was Frank's companion â?? marriage would be years away â?? and her husband at the time the second unfaithful spouse she had left for a more successful man.
    Little love notes and rather large jewels were part of the good times with Sinatra. While she tends to excuse the darker moments in their three decades together, Barbara accepts that Frank's inner demons came with the glitter and glamour.

    AP
    In this book cover image released by Crown, "Lady Blue Eyes: My Life with Frank," by Barbara Sinatra, is shown. (AP Photo/Crown)



    When Sinatra hurled a brass clock into a wall during a game of charades, she considered it part of his "dangerous" charm. He berated a female columnist who brought up their adultery â?? for good measure he stuffed two dollar bills in the woman's glass â?? but Barbara saw his actions as exciting, and a loving defense of her. Friends waited by the phone to see if and when he desired their company, a routine she seems to shrug off.
    Her life revolved around his, and that was fine with her. At his behest she quit smoking â?? he thought it unfeminine â?? but he never gave up his unfiltered Camels. She quickly learned what those close to him already knew: When Frank was drunk, which was not infrequent, it was best to disappear.
    Her version of events, such as why Sinatra kept performing far beyond his prime, at times clashes with those of others. "Frankophiles" will debate whether she was as selfless and dutiful as she appears in these pages.
    One image is as chilling as it is sad: Sinatra, on the day he died, sitting in a wheelchair poolside at their Beverly Hills, Calif., home, suffering from heart and lung ailments and memory loss, a half-eaten grilled cheese sandwich on his plate.
    Even Frank Sinatra's money, fame and power had their limits.
    â??â??â??
    Douglass K. Daniel is the author of "Tough as Nails: The Life and Films of Richard Brooks" (University of Wisconsin Press).



    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ry?id=13717042


    My father hates Frank Sinatra. This is a book I'd like to read, I always wondered if she was kind of a "look away" wife, or if she gave as good as she got. He struck me as a very hurtful person.

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    There are so many sides to Frank. At an accounting/investment company that I worked with for many years in L.A., I worked with a CPA who also worked with individuals as a accounting consultant. One of his clients back in the '70's was actress Barbara Nichols. Barbara's health was bad due to alcoholism and she was living alone in Hollywood Hills. He told me that Frank was basically paying her bills (including medical expenses) and apartment. She was too ill to work and her career was done at that point. My friend said a lot of bills were forwarded to Frank's accountant to be paid if she couldn't. I thought that was pretty cool of Frank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttercup View Post
    There are so many sides to Frank. At an accounting/investment company that I worked with for many years in L.A., I worked with a CPA who also worked with individuals as a accounting consultant. One of his clients back in the '70's was actress Barbara Nichols. Barbara's health was bad due to alcoholism and she was living alone in Hollywood Hills. He told me that Frank was basically paying her bills (including medical expenses) and apartment. She was too ill to work and her career was done at that point. My friend said a lot of bills were forwarded to Frank's accountant to be paid if she couldn't. I thought that was pretty cool of Frank.

    I think he really liked playing "the don". You know, big man on campus, able to fix everyone's woes. I don't think it was selflessness. He was an ego maniacal asshole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenly Tiger View Post
    LMAO, I can't what he got busted for:


    Frank Sinatra was arrested by the Bergen County, New Jersey sheriff in 1938 and charged with carrying on with a married woman (yes, you could get popped for that back then). The charge was later changed to adultery, and eventually dismissed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bidmor View Post
    That would be an inordinate quantity of disembodied crooning...gives "Strangers In The Night" a whole new meaning.
    Strangers in my wife,
    They're taking chances;
    She's been rotten twice,
    From past romances;
    You'll be rotten too,
    Before the night is through..........
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    They had a "sneak preview" about Barbara Sinatra's book on a local morning news program today. According to Barbara, some of the tidbits she writes about ol' blue eyes is that he took at least 12 showers a day, liked to splash lavender water all over himself and had more sexual energy than Elvis.
    "So many faces in and out of my life. Some will last, some will just be now and then. Life is a series of Hellos and Goodbyes, I'm afraid it's time for Goodbye again. "

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    I wonder what she says about Ava? If anything.

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    There has been a lot of publicity about her new book here in the UK .I don't care if he was ego maniacal asshole , he was a fascinating man She came across like she had been around the block a few times and knew what she getting into.

    Didn't he keep a Xmas tree year round in his porch ? can't have been all bad !!

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    In The Wee Small Hours is one of my favorite CD's of all time -- incredibly sad album, but one of the least maudlin. The hurt in it is palpable. And it was recorded after his breakup with Ava Gardner.

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    This is an interesting little tidbit I learned from a book I'm reading on Steve McQueen. Shades of Brandon Lee and Jon Eric Hexum:


    While filming never so few, Sinatra liked to light firecrackers behind McQueen and startle him. In retaliation one day, Steve picked up a prop machine gun and fired a round of blanks directly at Sinatra. You could hear a pin drop on the set until Sinatra laughed .

    http://books.google.ca/books?id=8CWU...page&q&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbelle View Post
    This is an interesting little tidbit I learned from a book I'm reading on Steve McQueen. Shades of Brandon Lee and Jon Eric Hexum:


    While filming never so few, Sinatra liked to light firecrackers behind McQueen and startle him. In retaliation one day, Steve picked up a prop machine gun and fired a round of blanks directly at Sinatra. You could hear a pin drop on the set until Sinatra laughed .

    http://books.google.ca/books?id=8CWU...page&q&f=false
    Jeez, old school Hollywood had the best stories. That's amazing.

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    The Chairman's "Villa Maggio" near Palm Desert...out in the middle of nowhere...is up for sale:

    http://homes.yahoo.com/news/frank-si...184500140.html
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